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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 42 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The difference between MAGA nuts and sane people is that sane people will see stories about people they previously liked being involved with Epstein and still be glad more of the Epstein files are being released while the moment MAGAts sense the Epstein files will be bad for their orange leader, they try to sweep them under the rug.

[–] ooli3@sopuli.xyz 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

to be fair, per the article Chomsky do not seems to be implicated in anything with Epstein.. so the article is pretty suspicious. Remind me who own theguardian?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but Chomsky is someone who has spent decades studying and writing about power structures and media’s involvement in those power structures.

I spent a bunch of my years in college reading and watching his Noam’s shit. The fact that he was chilling with this dude, especially after he pled guilty, is a serious WTF moment.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 4 points 13 hours ago

Were they actually chilling together, or was this just written correspondence? Like letters from prison.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 22 hours ago

prepare for the wave of leftists and democrats connected to epstein and everything about the gop being scrubbed.
….
and, hot take here: how reasonable is it to expect everyone that knew epstein to have known the circumstances of him soliciting an underage child, or to know that it happened at all?
I’m sure he had a plausible story about it being dark, she was wearing makeup or some bullshit… his very short jail sentence would support any claims of “honest mistake”.
and while i know there was some press about his conviction, did everyone know this?
i’ve never run a background check on anyone i’ve hung out with, nor have i googled their names. Any one of my friends could have an old pedophile conviction i never heard of… i’d like to think i could just tell, but im not actually psychic.
i sure wouldn’t hang around after i knew.

originally that was the problem with the epstein files being released. He tried to connect himself to as many famous people and intellectuals as possible.
now they will all be guilty in the court of public opinion.

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The Scott Trust Limited, which is effectively still The Guardian, and was created to guarantee its financial and editorial independence. There's a reason why Snowden went to them specifically to leak his leaks etc.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 16 hours ago

I believe he chose specific journalists, glen greenwald and a couple journalists from the Washington post.

[–] ooli3@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If the guardian is own by some oligarch with real ties to Epstein, It would make sense to push article on people with weak tie to muddy the plot

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Aah.. I see, I thought you were skeptical of the article. But you were actually expressing confidence in them.

[–] ooli3@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I conflicted. The article doesnt seems to find anything really bad in chomsky and epstein ties.. but then why does it exist then?

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 3 points 8 hours ago

I think it is because Chomsky's name has been associated with Epstein before this, and when new information popped they reported what is in there. Mainly how Chomsky remained in contact even after knowing the issues of Epstein. I think they did a good job of reporting it properly, instead of sensationalising it, by just explaining the new stuff that is unsealed.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

Ah, a British Libertarian Billionaire, last I looked

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Epstein was interested in Chomsky for some reason due to his expertise in linguistics, or so it's been speculated.

It's possible chomsky had nothing to do with Epstein's nefarious and illegal activities.

We won't know, until they RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES.

If Chomsky is guilty of some of the heinous shit, I'll be right there with you to throw him and drag him under the bus. For now, we don't know if he's actually guilty of anything.

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

If Epstein happened to work for Mossad then I think it wouldn't be a far fetch they needed someone to keep a close friendship with Noam, considering his writings about Palestine

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 5 points 9 hours ago

for some reason

The linguistics research that Chomsky and Marvin Minsky were doing was the AI craze of their day. The place they were working was called the "MIT AI Lab". It was funded by the department of defense. Not hard to wonder why an Israeli agent would be interested in their work.

It's obvious, that there are a lot of people whom had contact with Epstein and had nothing to do with anything nefarious. However, I think Chomsky and Esptein kept contact after it was revealed he was a pedo child trafficker. Not a good sign.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

I hope you’re right.

[–] Cybersec@piefed.social 14 points 18 hours ago

I was watching a big documentary of Epstein yesterday that’s really good (Epstein Filthy Rich) and an important point was Epstein spent a ton of effort in his later years donating and intermingling and injecting himself into academia in a reputation rehabilitation effort, he was inserting himself into all kinds of orgs and venues. Shame on Chomsky for not being more careful and I don’t know what, but Epstein was real pushy to get alongside such folks.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Damn, for real? I saw a documentary with him in it about a decade ago and he seemed cool at the time but these days it's just one headline after another of him being a total piece of shit.

Not looking good for him, and if he was involved with that, it's heartbreaking, but fuck him, let him rot in jail.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

Give us the details on Trump, not some overrated writer