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Defence secretary reveals details of recent incursions as he warns UK is facing ‘new era of threat’ from hostile countries

A Russian spy ship has entered British waters and shone lasers at military pilots, the defence secretary has said, as he warned the UK was facing a “new era of threat” from hostile countries.

John Healey told reporters on Wednesday the “deeply dangerous” move was being taken “extremely seriously” by the government, adding the UK would continue monitoring the ship and had “military options ready” should the vessel change course.

He said the surveillance ship had crossed in and out of the UK’s exclusive economic zone multiple times in recent weeks, not for the first time this year.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 95 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Two Canadian Air force pilots had to be medically discharged after a Russian ship caused permanent damage to their eyes with a laser a while back.

Fuck the Russians.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 30 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Oopsie gotta eject and where's that airframe going? Oh my directly at that unsuspecting Russian warship? What shame.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Tempting I'm sure, but they would be sitting ducks in the water after ejecting. Not something the pilots would consider worth risking.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The one thing you don't do is touch a us boat or a us pilot, if Russia did it would be on no questions asked.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The current president only likes service members who don't get captured.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

To be fair mc Cain is a liar loser with a over hyped story that ignores the major details that make it entirely his fault he was captured.

Still a shitty thing to say but you won't ever find me standing up for McCain.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 38 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder what would happen if people started just using water-dropping aircraft to dump tons of water on them. Maybe escalate to some type of really stanky water. Over and over and over and over again.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So water from the Thames then, yes.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The Thames is the cleanest river in the world that goes through a metropolis. Brown is its natural healthy silty colour.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The Thames is one of the cleanest river in the world that goes through a metropolis.

You dropped the weasel wording there.

But I'm glad they fixed it. Just like the Rhine that was going through my old home town. Nowadays one could even swim in it. No, not really, it's considered super dangerous, but not because of toxicity.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The last survey put it first place. No weasels required, but otters welcome.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 8 hours ago

OK, I believe you.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Or the Trump poop meme.

Just run massive planes over the Russian spy ships and dump manure on them.

“Whoopsie doopsie, our evil western planes are so bad that the hatch failed, sowwyy”

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Hmm. I know a few pig farmers that has plenty of waste to get rid of. They normally sell it off as fertilizer, but, eh, I'm sure we can persuade them to donate for the cause.

sucks to be whatever schmuck has to clean out the hold, though.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 32 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Bomb the ship. Stop taking their shit. The fascist piece of shit only understands strength.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 25 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

How about we let them map all the internet cables, deploy drones over the airports and blow up some infrastructure instead?

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] card797@champserver.net 2 points 4 hours ago

That's the losing spirit!

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[–] Pika@rekabu.ru 12 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

As mentioned already, the ship was found in the British economic zone, not inside British borders. This means it was found in international waters, and bombing it is initiation of war.

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 22 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What if we just say that they're smuggling drugs?

[–] tirednapstablook@lemmings.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Wouldn't work since Russia has the mean to respond, unlike Venezuela.

[–] card797@champserver.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Shooting lasers is an act of war.

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Someone should tell the Americans.

[–] modular950@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

but.. but... they started it with the lasers! >:(

/s but also not /s

[–] Angelevo@feddit.nl 2 points 9 hours ago

unfortunate truth

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago

blow those fucking drunks out of the water.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 25 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The ship entered the Brtitish Economic Zone. Which is still international territory.

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[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What a bunch of fucking trolls. Same goes with China.

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Regular military flyovers of Taiwan airspace, regular "missile tests" that land near them in their waters or fly over their airspace.. Constant "coastguard" vessels travelling down to ram, bully and occasionally shoot at literally all of their southern neighbors (Philippines, Taiwan, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc)... an unannounced Navy exercise recently with a three-ship grouping that went all the way down to Australian and NZ waters (economic zone) and then performed live fire activities with no warning to anyone in the area.

These are just the recent aggressive trolling cunt behaviours I recall of the top of my head.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Also used a sonar ping while divers were clearing fishing nets from a Australian frigate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/67461081

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

Trolls took over. Not the mouthy idiots but the big gnarled ones from under bridges. They smell really bad. Neighbouring countries are complaining.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 20 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Serious question: why are politicians so weak? We know Russian agents are entering EU thorough Belarus and Hungary, starting fires, shutting down airports and now blowing up railways. Why EU can't simply shut down the borders and deny entry to anyone with Russian passport? There are supposed to be sanctions in place so the economic activity between EU and Russia/Belarus should be non-existent anyway (except gas/oil but this is not crossing the border in trucks). WTF?

[–] oneser@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

My very lay-person understanding is that generally there is a level of shit each country accepts, e.g. election meddling, hacking or taking of political prisoners as it is part of the "standard affairs" - and will respond to non-forcefully. (Please don't see me as advocating or trying to downplay these activities, they are abhorrent).

In order to respond with force or war, a lot of prep needs to go in to make sure that the action will be supported by enough allies to both achieve the goal/s and deal with any possible fallout from retaliation.

I believe the EU and its allies sees that a war response to Russian meddling may bring in China more actively into the picture and the US may not come to back them up (unless China decide to re-take Taiwan). OR they see the long-term economic damage to Russia as significant enough to achieve long term regional impact.

Therefore, the EU may not be confident of opening up conflict unless forced to.

IMO Russia's actions in the EU are a clear test of the EU's boundaries and willingness to retaliate.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

One theory is putin is desperate to bait a nato attack he can spin as nato entering the ukraine war so he can retreat (or maybe escalate) while saving face.

Im not entirely convinced but its a solid enough theory

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 3 points 6 hours ago

I feel like if China is gonna get involved it'll be to invade Siberia for the significant amount of oil resource that is available

[–] tirednapstablook@lemmings.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Most politicians only care about funneling as much money to their donors as possible.

They keep getting elected because most voters are stupid.

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago

Russian spy ship, go fuck yourself!

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

A Russian spy ship has entered British waters and shone lasers at military pilots,

Then have itnpqy a visit to bikini bottom. Lasers can permanently blind people, if call that a direct military assault and an act of war

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

They've been going tit-for-tat with flyovers and sail-bys for a while.

For the same reason Russians aren't in a hurry to shoot down an RAF aircraft, Brits don't really want to start a shooting war over some Russians with laser pointers.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

One of those laser weapons that are supposed to take drones down or a laser pointer?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

You know I've never tried to track a jet with a handheld laser pointer but I imagine it's not easy so I'm going to guess it's some sort of fixed device like perhaps a range finder for a deck gun or ciws.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure it’s just a bunch of guys each awkwardly holding like 40 of those green laser pointers off AliExpress. They all wave them around vaguely in the direction of the aircraft and figure one of them is gonna hit.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but they've put a fancy canopy thing over it to make it look like a seewiz

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yantar (yes it sounds like reptar and I can't help picturing it as a hokey dinosaur either) just got two new domes on deck. They could be discotechs with laser light shows.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago

Apparently it effectively blinded fighter pilots in a separate incident, so no, not a consumer device.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

If they don't cut it out with the lasers, I'm getting my slingshot.

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