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Trump told Republicans not to "waste" their time on extending the enhanced ACA subsidies set to expire, saying he'd only support "sending the money directly back to the people."

Republicans are careening to a health care cliff with no solution in hand. An estimated 22 million people in the U.S. are about to see their health insurance premiums soar by, in some cases, thousands of dollars per month, as billions in funding for the Affordable Care Act expires on Dec. 31. The expiring funds, costing about $35 billion per year, were first passed during the pandemic to subsidize insurance payments, capping premiums for a “benchmark” ACA, or “Obamacare,” plan to 8.5% of income.

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[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 169 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Remember when Republicans shut down the government for 43 days, specifically to prevent Democrats from saving these subsidies? And then the Democrats caved for no reason and got nothing? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pepperidge Farm had to be sold due to medical bills. Now he is sucking dick behind the 7-11 for chemo medicine money.

Somehow still members

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

schumer specifically, hes the one orchestrated it behind the scenes, he only was against it publically, because looks bad in optics. he holds all the cards in funding senate campagins, he has as power as mitch did with the gop. hes more or less the DINO(GOP-LITE) version of mitch.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He is highly despised right now, by EVERYBODY. He sat by and allowed MAGA to happen. While McConnell could get anything done, even without a majority, Schmuckie can't do anything, even when he had majorities.

He's been incredibly weak, cowardly, and corrupt, when we most needed a warrior. AOC could easily humiliate him in the primary, the way she did Markey to get her seat.

And Schmuck shouldn't be alone. A LOT of Dems should get primaried next year. They'll either lose to a more motivated candidate, or they'll get a clue, and start doing their jobs.

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[–] Mondoshawan@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if what the Dems got was certain names redacted from the about-to-be-released Epstein files in exchange for ending the shutdown

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago

PROBABLY the major donors. and then theres thiel who has been in with epstein since 1990s, yea he recently dumped his stocks as a way to shield his assets.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I haven't been too keen on Democrats since maybe always, but they've usually been the better option and their liberal populism can be influenced quite easily so it's usually the better choice.

But between Israel and this last fiasco with literally abandoning the ONE good thing their party pushed through, the ACA marketplace subsidies (which was still pretty anemic considering) I will never forget what they did. I have been directly harmed by these rat bastards.

I don't have any illusions that we're going to build a third party, our country doesn't currently work that way. But I sure as shit am going to help advocate for flushing every old-guard, establishment Democrat out of office as soon as humanly possible. Useless, steaming pile of old-money fucks suckling at the Republican's teets.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So glad we gave him everything he wanted so now we have no leverage at all. Another masterful play by Chuck Schumer.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

he probably knows the other 13 dems that wasnt chosen to end the shutdown would be harmed by thier seats, thats why he went with the 8 that either is retiring or not up for election.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Why do people keep assuming Chuck Schumer is some master tactician when literally all we've ever seen from him is failure after failure?

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

THIS was another failure, so it's in form for him.

[–] TheBlindPew@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Because bumbling into failures is the tactic he chooses to achieve the goals of his donors, not his constituents but the people who have given him the money to get into his position of power in the first place specifically so that he can pretend to be on board with improving the country only to torpedo anything that looks like it might improve people's lives if that improvement means his donors missing out on even $1

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The democrats who voted to end the shut down are delusional

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

Start with Schmuck Schumer.

Correct.

The people voting for them are delusional.

[–] tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, Chuck Schumer was simply ordering them to do what his donors wanted.

https://washingtonreporter.news/p/exclusive-house-democrats-raise-tens

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

No, they’re not. They’re getting something out of it. I don’t know why that is precisely, but they’re getting something. This was never about caring for their constituents.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who would have ever guessed that the hypocrite lying liars that always lie would ever lie about such a thing!? Well I never!

I'm so glad our representatives aren't the absolute peak of naive and gullible of all people in existence. It would really suck to be depending on insanely naive and pathetic people.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Not naive. Complicit.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Okay but at least we got.... wait, wait... umm... there was the...

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

70 days of starvation for elderly and unemployed people dependant on SNAPs?

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's been promising the greatest health care plan of all time for a decade, only to admit to "concepts of a plan," an obvious lie, when pressured during a debate.

He's a LIAR. There has never been, and never will be, a MAGA Health Care plan. The health insurance companies have paid handsomely for this precise outcome, and Trump will honor that bribe.

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their plan is for us to die after giving one of them all our money and the more we suffer while doing it the better.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. There is a deliberate conservative effort to make sure they strip us of every penny when we die, and leave no inheritance to help the next generation.

They don't like it when their experienced 50-something workers get a big inheritance, and decide to retire early, or worse, go into competition, using ideas they've been pushing for years, and getting refused. They may even take some others with them.

Nope, what little money we have, they want. All of it. They even took our pennies, knowing they'll make out over time on the round-up. They are shameless when it comes to taking our money.

And once we are poor, our only use to them will be as slaves.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

The Trump administration is working really hard to prove Luigi right

[–] rylock@piefed.zip 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Americans clearly need to touch the stove and get burned before they understand what they've unleashed. It's regrettable but saving them from the consequences of their political decisions might be worse in the long term. We're at this horrendous point where things will have to get worse before they have a chance of getting better.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I’m actually of the opinion that Americans are stupidly selfish because they’ve never had to go through the unifying thread of war and mass destruction on their country. They’ve never endured a community/county level hardship. The Pandemic was close but even then it wasn’t the visceral, visible destruction.

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago

Americans are permanent residents of the ICU at this point, glued to 24hr tiktok reel propaganda about how "third degree burns aren't real, skin grafts cause autism"

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[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It really makes you wonder if he would have considered extending it if they had offered to simply rename it Trump care

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

That's what we should call the plan that uninsured Americans are on. When asked what health insurance they have, rather than say "None," they should say they have TrumpCare.®

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I hated even typing it

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago

Republican voters hate Obamacare, but dont want anyone messing with the ACA.

This is 100% real, I have talked to several of these MAGA idiots.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know many/most of you are aware of how bad this is, but I'm still gonna bitch here.

I lost my job as a result of the Trump administration's policies. While I had other options for health insurance (ex: COBRA), getting an ACA plan made the most sense to me at the time. It was shittier in comparison to what I had at my job (and what I would have retained access to via COBRA), but mostly comparable in the easy to measure ways (i.e. out of pocket costs and coverage of necessary meds) and cost much less than COBRA even without considering those tax credits / subsidies.

Honestly, it was so much work just to figure out which plan made the most sense, I had no idea I needed to check to see if there was a ticking time bomb ready to go off. The new 2026 rates are so much higher with poorer coverage and higher out of pocket expense -- worse in pretty much every way you could think. While I may still opt for one of the low tier plans that's basically catastrophic only + the minimum required coverage, at that price point and for what it provides, I'm sure a lot of people will go without even if they technically could afford the premiums. I know I'm still weighing my options, but it does feel like they took my job then took my access to health care, what next?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

COBRA is not a reasonable option for anyone who has just lost their job. It's fucking insulting.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

No shit got that offer after being laid off. Fucking 700 a month, was only getting 1000 in unemployment a month. How the fuck could pay 700 for Cobra.

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tim Kaine and crew, how's that feeling for you!

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Virginian here and I am ashamed of our current "representation".

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Glad democrats screwed government workers for a record length to achieve absolutely nothing.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Be fair. They got a THC ban.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

"republicnas are careening towards a helth care cliff"? .....no they're not. what cliff? THEIR healthcare and benefits are firmly secured and under no threat whatsoever.

why would they give a shit about your healthcare?? it is a pillar of conservatism to not give a shit about you. never forget, the driving mindset and creed for republicans is: FUCK YOU, I GOT MINE

[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Cool send me the check. Must be like 30,000 per person

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Still not volunteering.

[–] Auk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

His hair is starting to look like Kim Jong-Un’s flat top.

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

$2000 would only pay for a few months of insurance. Not better in any way.

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