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[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 176 points 22 hours ago

I wasn’t aware Jeffrey’s brother knew Captain Obvious

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 151 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You mean the 1,000 FBI agents, reported back in July, that were tasked with flagging references to Trump weren't just making a fun Facebook style memories reel for the Orange One?

[–] jdredbeard@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We just need one to break ranks. I know it's unlikely, any whistleblower's life is pretty much over. But come one, it's time to wikileaks this shit

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

One did. On a date. This made mainstream news 2 months ago: https://youtu.be/tx5F6llyaVw

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 13 points 15 hours ago

I mean that’s speculation from someone who was supposedly not involved, not really a “whistleblower”.

[–] Samuelwankenobi@sh.itjust.works 100 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

As I've said before we are probably going to get two versions of the Epstein files the one edited by trump that will probably be released first and the real one that will be released later when Trump is dead or out of office in some way

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 60 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The real files might be released decades from now when they are no longer relevant.

[–] Samuelwankenobi@sh.itjust.works 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yep that's the problem we might not see the real files until after Trump is long dead

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago

Like the Mueller Report "summary"

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 84 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh you mean Trump just saying the other day that "it's all Democrats" in the files anyway wasn't him essentially admitting that they removed all the Republicans from it. Gee color me shocked.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 40 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So when he suddenly demanded the release of the files the other day, it wasn't his characteristic humble contrition but just knowing they finished the data purge?

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

What are steps we should take when this happens? I'm not directly asking you, but more the room. Like what is gonna happen if he releases the files and only Dems are on it? That's what got me worried.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 14 points 19 hours ago

Theyre going to pretend only dems were in it and use politics to go after them. And the news reporters will go along with it.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 47 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I think it depends on how much the implicated billionaires and some of the smarter Republicans are involved in editing the files.

If the Trump admin is doing it alone, I bet that this redaction will be completed so sloppily and incompetently, there will be enough crumbs and hints leftover that we'll be able to paint a picture to see more on how Trump and Republicans are involved.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 30 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

With any luck, some ethical career agents have done their job sloppily with purpose.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So like just turn the text background to black....it looks redacted.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I’m guessing the web of people involved is becoming difficult to manage. Like Bill Gates calls up and says hey don’t forget to remove my name. And then Bezos calls. And so on. If the billionaires start to become unhappy, I predict it won’t be another kid who couldn’t make the high school rifle club that takes the next shot. It won’t be maxipad on the ear week. But unless they redact like 99% of it, yeah it will be sloppy and fully of fuckups.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago

It won’t be maxipad on the ear week

I forgot that happened. JFC

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 29 points 20 hours ago
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago

Of course they are.

I would have been shocked had they not been.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 26 points 22 hours ago

We know. That's why trump is now approving the release, he got word they've been cleaned.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 24 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

The bill requires the justice department deliver a report on what was redacted including a list of names.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Do you believe they will comply?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, even if they don't believe he will, they have no enforcement mechanic they're willing to leverage. They're gonna release heavily redacted files, call it a day, and wait for the media cycle to change.

Every scandal is just this image on repeat.

collapsed inline media

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[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe he should release the originals?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 17 points 22 hours ago (3 children)
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 19 points 21 hours ago

That's not all of it.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Thise are the Epstein emails, not the Epstein files.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

This is a legit official site??

This is an article on “the biggest political scandal in presidential history” not only does presidential use of autopen go back for decades, it reads like it was written by ai.

https://oversight.house.gov/landing/the-biden-autopen-presidency/

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Presidential use of autopen-type devices goes back hundreds of years:

https://www.shapell.org/behind-the-scenes/the-robot-pen/

The first president to use the autopen extensively was Thomas Jefferson. ... Since Jefferson, various US presidents have made use of the autopen; some were guarded about it while others were more open about its use. Whereas once the official White House position was to deny the existence or usage of the autopen, today its existence is more of an open secret.

Harry Truman was rumored to make use of the device; Gerald Ford was open about his utilization of the autopen, but it was Lyndon B. Johnson who blew the doors off the entire affair by allowing the device to be photographed in the White House, appearing on the cover of The National Enquirer with the article “The Robot That Sits in for the President.”

John F. Kennedy was so dependent on the autopen, that he became the subject of a book entitled The Robot That Helped to Make a President.

But sure, the biggest political scandal of all time is not putting a Russia-compromised 34-times convicted felon and serial pedophile rapist who aims to turn the USA into a fascist autocracy into the presidency twice, but when Biden used a machine (as Trump also does) to sign things.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Good fucking luck. These aren't paper files you can burn, and the reference trees are fucking DEEP.

Federal agencies use digital reference and versioning to make sure there is always a paper trail back to access and fucking with records. You can't go back and scrub these things just on the surface.

If you're familiar with code repositories like git or svn, it's like that. Anyone who accesses or changes a file is logged. Any deletions have revisions saved. All the links to external sources like court documents or witness testimony is kept on record similarly, and you can't go back and scrub the history like you could by just burning shit without breaking a whole bunch of stuff. There's always a source of truth in these systems.

I think they are imagining they keep access to these systems out of touch if anyone until Trump is safely out office is my guess. Then he thinks he can pardon it all away, but the history will be saved and accessible eventually.

Congress (or at least some of them) know how these systems work, and they'll find broken references or bad links to things that should exist and have gone "missing" once they dig in. I'd like to see the excuses for the disappearing of data when new subpoenas come out.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

without breaking a whole bunch of other stuff

They have shown a penchant for doing exactly that. The Whitehouse is literally in shambles. People need to stop acting like anything they say or do would ever be in good faith.

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[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago

I recently got heavily down voted for suggesting that if they release, we couldn't trust the validity anyway.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

From a historical context when does the public start getting mad enough to guillotine the wealthy pedofile cabal?

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 18 points 15 hours ago

We can’t have expected anything different. Neither party wants the truth out there, so they’ll trade alternating versions of “the truth”, and pretend to argue over it, in order to hide the real truth.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 14 points 20 hours ago

Why are we trusting this guy again, though? Like I’m sure if they can be scrubbed they will be but seriously? Look at the fucking source man.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The redacting has already occurred when Trump tasked the Justice Department with it, now it's in too many hands to be edited by one person. Senate committees and judges. The redacting that did happen was obviously not very thorough or else they were busy erasing really bad shit. Don't look for the guys Trump hired to have been very good at their jobs.

Trump's actually weak for once, this is one of several spears in his soft disgusting underbelly. Redistricting is not looking good all of a sudden, Texas's map was rejected but California's might yet stand, oops! Self inflicted wound there. So now he's suddenly being perceived as a lame duck because, how's he supposed to get a third term without Congress on his side?

Once they feel like the ground is soft, his entire party will run to a better camp... notice how other leaders are setting up big tents right now... his only threat is his ability to primary people, but that'll be gone in an instant when public perception slides out of his control. Trump is trying to stay ahead of it right now, playing it the usual way.

This article is just Jeff's brother trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. Bet he's got a book deal brewing. I do like that the media is showing this idea to people tho, lots of idiots read People.

Tl;dr I am not worried about it so much, Trump's undoing may be right at hand.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

The journalist that went on a date with some MAGA fbi, who bragged about scrubbing out Republicans and leaving in democrats, also confirms this story

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago

Not surprised, but someone has the original and copies. Fuck the Government of Putin.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

And not a single victim's name will be redacted.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Why are we only suddenly hearing about this guy now?

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 13 hours ago

Because he didn't exist until last week. He just berenstæined into existence.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

We need Chris Hanson to run as president with how many pedos we got in the government

[–] Morphite88@thelemmy.club 8 points 21 hours ago

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 20 hours ago

Then any redacted names must be a Republican, simple

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 7 points 22 hours ago

of course they are.

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