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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Good fucking luck. These aren't paper files you can burn, and the reference trees are fucking DEEP.

Federal agencies use digital reference and versioning to make sure there is always a paper trail back to access and fucking with records. You can't go back and scrub these things just on the surface.

If you're familiar with code repositories like git or svn, it's like that. Anyone who accesses or changes a file is logged. Any deletions have revisions saved. All the links to external sources like court documents or witness testimony is kept on record similarly, and you can't go back and scrub the history like you could by just burning shit without breaking a whole bunch of stuff. There's always a source of truth in these systems.

I think they are imagining they keep access to these systems out of touch if anyone until Trump is safely out office is my guess. Then he thinks he can pardon it all away, but the history will be saved and accessible eventually.

Congress (or at least some of them) know how these systems work, and they'll find broken references or bad links to things that should exist and have gone "missing" once they dig in. I'd like to see the excuses for the disappearing of data when new subpoenas come out.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

without breaking a whole bunch of other stuff

They have shown a penchant for doing exactly that. The Whitehouse is literally in shambles. People need to stop acting like anything they say or do would ever be in good faith.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Regardless of their intentions, you just can't hope and wish the underlying systems to obey your wants.

Think of it like you creating a "Choose Your Own Adventure" book, except when it says to go to page 43, that page is missing. Or a reference to a character later in the book was missing from previous pages.

It's a digital statement of record, and attempts to alter the history of said statement breaks everything in the "future" created in this system. If you try and go back to delete stuff, the record will be broken if you break a link to something previously created.

They don't have the manpower to dump and completely recreate the entire FBI database to solely remove Trump's name from these files, and even if they did, there would still be references in documents to things that no longer exist, like "Evidence Document #328", and then it shockingly doesn't exist anymore? No fucking way.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You seem to have some familiarity with this. Would I be right in surmising that these systems are based on some kind of append only ledger system similar to git?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

I hope you're right. And I hope Trump's people are dumb enough not to realize it.