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Fuck Akio and Toyota

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[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 122 points 21 hours ago (15 children)

Easy: So I can scratch Toyota from the list of potentially interesting car companies for my next car.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (10 children)

You can simply scratch every single new car from that list while you're at it. Every single one is a massive privacy violation with zero right to repair and corporations that soft-support the Nazi's in myriad ways. Buy used and repair yourself, or walk.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 26 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm learning a hard lesson that you can't fix much after ~2016 either. You can replace the parts, but good luck resetting the computers without proprietary dealership software.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 14 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, you have to go back to the 2000s-2010s era and when abundant spare parts and junkyards start to run out, be prepared to invest new-car level cash in custom fabrication and mechanical work to keep it on the road. Cars don't really have to be as complicated or expensive as they are, but for now, they're always going to be. People have always been custom-building cars for show, for history, for racing, for performance, and pretty soon we're going to start doing it for daily drivers too, and it'll stay that way until they start changing the laws to try to force these cars off the road for environmental reasons. Until then, support your local custom car builders, they're going to become the future of repairable cars, at least when it comes to the pre-EV gas guzzlers.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 23 points 18 hours ago

Basically, start taking notes from Cuban car culture. They're custom fabricating everything to keep their yank tanks operating.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

Should be a full business keeping pre 2014 cars on the road or resto modding them to use after market user serviceable ecus.

Really depends on the car though. You can do amything with any 5.0 mustang and keep it going forever. An 02 focus though, youre screwed and there's no parts avilable any more and no aftermarket for it

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

soft-support the Nazi's in myriad ways.

Porsche, Mercedes Benz, Mitsubishi, Subaru, BMW, and VW: "Haha yeah, soft support, riiiight...."

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I love my 14 year old vw with no smart system (what little smart infotainment system it has hasn’t worked since I bought it and I’m replacing it with a regular stereo eventually) that I bought with a little cash. It has no frills like blind spot detection, lane stuff, nor backup camera, and I love it. But it has the right frills like heated seats and a sunroof.

I’m not sure I want a newer vehicle.

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[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 76 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Reminder: Toyota is also the third biggest anti climate lobbyist in the world

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

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Also largest supplier of mobile weapons platform aka Hilux pickup truck.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 47 points 21 hours ago

I was that close to a GR Corolla too. Thanks for making this easier.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 41 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Is this the same Toyota that sells like one EV model? Not exactly stunning leadership.

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 34 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

One shitty EV they co developed with Subaru.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And hydrogen cars that have almost a dozen available filling stations!

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 15 points 18 hours ago

Ah, you mean the hydrogen that could theoretically be made from water but is actually in practice made from natural gas? The perfect infinitely renewable fuel indeed! Someday, it could even be zero-carbon! Someday in the future, after the oil companies have finished getting even richer and decide they finally have enough money now. Could happen any day now. Won't. But could!

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

The Subaru models are better, too. Like, way better.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 38 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The fact that I'll probably never be able to afford a new car again gets easier to accept every year it seems. Yay? I guess?

[–] lilas105@ttrpg.network 13 points 17 hours ago

That's okay, the people making money off of you are having a good time.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago

what would you want a new car for anyways?

they:

  • track you and harvest and sell your data

  • are not easy to repair because they are not designed for it

  • are designed as obnoxiously as possible (see: blinding headlights, blind spots, size, noise levels from weight and wheel size, etc)

  • have excessive amounts of shitty tech 'solutions' to fulfill simple requirements (yes Daddy I loooove navigating menus on a touchscreen for my climate control and headlights)

you couldn't pay me to drive the average new car. I just bought a 2012 that I don't even know if it passes safety yet, because it's better than spending twice as much in something newer and inevitably shittier, even after considering the unknowns that will pop up. at least the problems my 2012 will have will be fixable.

[–] crozilla@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Toyota lobbies hard against CAFE standards. They don’t wanna sell Priuses, they wanna sell TRUCKS!!!!

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago

Of course. They're massively profitable.

  1. You can ignore half the emissions standards requirements

  2. People want them because they're scared of driving a smaller vehicle while the other massive trucks on the road can crush them.

  3. They always talk about the ability to move things like furniture or equipment or things like thag despite only doing that twice a year, and rentals existing, including directly from places like Lowe's and Home Depot.

  4. People are willing to pay a premium because they mistakenly think that bigger vehicles cost substantially more to make because bigger must mean a lot more material, despite most of a vehicle being empty space.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

This is absolutely true, but at the same time they killed the bulletproof 5.7 V8 and replaced it with a twin turbo v6 that just barely gives 200lbs extra towing and just craps all over itself every time ruining the Toyota worldwide name for reliability

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 29 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Damn. Just finished up the payments on mine.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 54 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You purchased and paid it off before you knew, drive with a clear conscience until the wheels fall off and hope by then a better more ethical world exists.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in the middle of my payment. I do hope, by the time I'm done, the world will have seen better leadership. But for now I will drive in shame nonetheless.

[–] oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

Fuck, same.

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[–] 50MYT@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago

Cracking up that the photo is in front of a Ford

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 22 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Is that the Mr. Toyota Trump was talking about?

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 points 16 hours ago

I always confuse him with Akira Nissan

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

The name isn’t a coincidence. Akio Toyoda is a classic generational wealth nepo baby, the grandson of the founder of Toyota. Of course he’d be a Trumper.

The name of the company is read with a “ta” instead of “da” because of some Japanese numerology superstition reasons that I don’t fully understand.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

And sadly, Toyota about the only vehicle that I can comfortably sit in without my back being torn up.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

You ever sat in a Volvo? Best seats ever.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, no, I have not. I’ll have to check it out.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 18 hours ago

Don't knock preowned luxury cars either. 5+ year old used sedans with generally low mileage and usually comfort features (aka, old people who don't drive a lot), around the price of a low end new car these days

[–] haulyard@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Just not their second row suvs that somehow don’t have arm rests.

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[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] coaldustremover@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Always has been.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

More Tundras sold = more money

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 minutes ago
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