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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (5 children)

You can simply scratch every single new car from that list while you're at it. Every single one is a massive privacy violation with zero right to repair and corporations that soft-support the Nazi's in myriad ways. Buy used and repair yourself, or walk.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 26 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm learning a hard lesson that you can't fix much after ~2016 either. You can replace the parts, but good luck resetting the computers without proprietary dealership software.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 14 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, you have to go back to the 2000s-2010s era and when abundant spare parts and junkyards start to run out, be prepared to invest new-car level cash in custom fabrication and mechanical work to keep it on the road. Cars don't really have to be as complicated or expensive as they are, but for now, they're always going to be. People have always been custom-building cars for show, for history, for racing, for performance, and pretty soon we're going to start doing it for daily drivers too, and it'll stay that way until they start changing the laws to try to force these cars off the road for environmental reasons. Until then, support your local custom car builders, they're going to become the future of repairable cars, at least when it comes to the pre-EV gas guzzlers.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 23 points 18 hours ago

Basically, start taking notes from Cuban car culture. They're custom fabricating everything to keep their yank tanks operating.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

Should be a full business keeping pre 2014 cars on the road or resto modding them to use after market user serviceable ecus.

Really depends on the car though. You can do amything with any 5.0 mustang and keep it going forever. An 02 focus though, youre screwed and there's no parts avilable any more and no aftermarket for it

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Most manufacturer software is easy to find online.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

soft-support the Nazi's in myriad ways.

Porsche, Mercedes Benz, Mitsubishi, Subaru, BMW, and VW: "Haha yeah, soft support, riiiight...."

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I love my 14 year old vw with no smart system (what little smart infotainment system it has hasn’t worked since I bought it and I’m replacing it with a regular stereo eventually) that I bought with a little cash. It has no frills like blind spot detection, lane stuff, nor backup camera, and I love it. But it has the right frills like heated seats and a sunroof.

I’m not sure I want a newer vehicle.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that the one created/owned by Amazon? I'm not sure you'll be correct.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

Bezos is an investor, yes. I don't think he has actual direct control over anything though.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

It’s still required to have all the mandatory safety systems like automatic braking, back up camera etc. And to have those systems, all the brake and steering systems will require the same electronics as every other brand. It’s also why Toyota techs hate working on the Supra, because it actually uses design/tech from this decade, and it even uses BMW electronics that are two generations behind current BMWs.

Its literally funded by Amazon. Hard fucking pass.

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone -5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Buy a used (ICE) car, and you're supporting the fossil fuel industry. Walk, cycle, and public transport.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago

public transport isn't really an option for me (though I regularly advocate for it in my area and vote for people that will fund it), so I go the route of inexpensive used car and avoiding driving as much as I can