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Never worry about commie crap like public citations getting in the way of misinformation rhetoric again! (Because the LLM trained on fuckin twitter made it up lmao)

On the flipside for an actually cool non-cucked integration of LLMs with wikipedia check out this post on the localllama where the person shares their project of using a local private llm to search through a local kiwix server instance of wikipedia. https://piefed.social/post/1333130

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[–] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 75 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

It would be so funny if someone hacks the site and only changes that, and nobody notices for weeks...

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 48 points 2 days ago (8 children)

What's with his obession with the name "grok" though? Sounds like the sound frog made

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's from a book I love, Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land. The word is the Martian term for fully understanding something.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do not sense a wrongness in your post so I will not disappear you. :)

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

Your thirst is mine, my water is yours! ... Oh shit, wrong sci-fi world I think my bad

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What an obscure reach to make.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's been part of deep nerd culture for decades, but not really pop culture.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I believe it is from the book stranger in a strange land. Its meaning is like to deeeeply understand, I think.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

That's fucking hilarious for an LLM.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Not deeply but completely and absolutely.

Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed — to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion, philosophy, and science and it means as little to us as color does to a blind man.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You got the original explanation, but grok was taken up by computer nerds way back in the day. It's not merely understanding a thing, in the book or the slang. To grok means to completely wrap your head around the subject, not merely surface level understanding, really feel it down deep.

As to Musk's obsession? He wants to be seen as the cool kid, the smart hacker, the guy who groks what's really going on.

Honestly it's a great name for a search engine or AI. And now he's actively ruining it like everything else he touches.

BTW, Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent book. I laugh when people call Heinlein a fascist for writing Starship Troopers. "So, how about that hippie book?" Heinlein's books examine various government and economic systems, "What if it worked this way?"

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago

Media literacy is at an all time low, especially among terminally online "activists".

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't anyone remember groklaw? I feel like sometimes only I remember the early Internet anymore....

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I fully expect the SCO case to be resurrected at some point in this timeline. Then they’ll know.

[–] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Funny you say that. In Serbia, they say the noise a pig makes is "grok". My wife burst out laughing when she found out the name of Elon's AI.

Imagine some Saudi prince launches an AI called Oink, and then sets up Oinkepedia

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I always assumed Grok was chosen to hint as his technology background. For which "grok" is a popular term used for reading and understanding, with code in particular.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's a Heinlein - "stranger in a strange land" concept. It sort of spread out in nerdery from there where it meant you know and you're in the know.

To know is to understand fully sort of. He's doing the literal opposite which is a bit 1984 of him and is also likely another book he's read and didn't understand or at least had pretended to have read.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 21 hours ago

trying to be an edgy almost teenager.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rather ironic given that wikipedia makes a massive portion of LLM training corpus

[–] dabster291@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not to mention most Grokipedia pages are straight copied from Wikipedia!

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn't there used to be conservapedia that was just Wikipedia but edited to match their imagined reality?

[–] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

... I really hoped that this wasn't a thing, but im not surprised in the least.

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Its just fucking painful, man.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

That site is bugfuck nuts, and not just because I disagree with most conservative positions. Bug. Fuck. Nuts.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Tge thing with conservapedia is Poe's law makes it impossible to moderate. A conservative (heh) estimate is that 70% of that site is trolling.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago

i remember i randomly found this while i was on a searxng instance.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you have to create a wikipedia alternative to stop being fact checked, then maybe you are just fuckin wrong.

Billionaires: "No, No.. I can't be wrong. I'm Rich! I'll create a microcosm of information that warps reality to make sure I'm right!"

Conservapedia: Wait..thats what I was for.. what about me?!

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So why didn't Conservapedia take off? If it's unbiased truth, no liberal agenda, it should have blown Wikipedia out of the water a decade ago. Funny that.

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Conservapedia was comically stupid. Like, there was a lengthy diatribe against the Theory of Relativity that seemed largely based off Andrew Schlafly confusing the Physics term "relativity" with "moral relativity" and being against the latter. This was especially weird because Schlafly personally had a background in applied physics and so ought to know that GPS satellites serve as a proof of some of Relativity.

As embarrassing as basically every page of Conservapedia was, at least it represented some stupid man's beliefs and effort. Grokipedia can't even do that.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 2 days ago

"We have compiled the largest website full of absolute bullshit and stupidity to compete against the largest compendium of real human knowledge."

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That dipshit really doesn't have any understanding of what the word grok actually means.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tbf, I never thought it meant anything

[–] codemankey@programming.dev 6 points 22 hours ago

Somebody (Robert Heinlein) made it up in a book (Stranger in a Strange Land).

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It means to understand something at a fundamental level

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Close. It means to understand a thing or person so completely that you and it/they become one.

"Elon invented the airplane."

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So did he just clone wikipedia?

[–] lavander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 22 hours ago

No, the articles are reliably allucinated by Grok… with a sprinkle of editing for making sure the echo chamber is air tight

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Elon is one thing, but the Grok developers have recently done a surprisingly good job at making it neutral and unbiased in matters of opinion, but also allowing it to tell people they're wrong in matters of fact, which is why there's so many screenshots around of conspiracy theorists getting shut down by it.

I can't say whether this will be the same, but if the devs take "without bias" to actually mean "without bias," rather than what Elon intends it to mean, it could actually be somewhat useful to filter out obvious promotional content and any small levels of bias.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 2 points 19 hours ago

It instead is 100% to repeat what Elon wants you to believe