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Sony is begging you: please forget about concord

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[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 349 points 3 days ago (19 children)

How dare they try and play a game they paid for.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 102 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This is 100% proof Sony is going to write this off as a tax write off

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 167 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I firmly believe that anything "written off" in that manner - this includes movies, too, in particular - should have to be released into the public domain as part of that process.

Any business that's paying less taxes is harming the public good; we should at least benefit in some small way from that.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

It's more likely they have contractual obligations with marketing companies, retailers, data centers, etc. If a product is discontinued they can get out of those obligations. Sure they will write off a loss and reduce the taxes they pay, but it's not as if a bigger loss nets them more money somehow.

Really what needs to be regulated is all of the excessive exclusive B2B contracts which mean a company can't just sell a product for a small amount of money to someone to maintain it when they're done with that product.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well if it’s “written off” of their taxes that means it’s taxes they don’t pay which is essentially paid by the rest of us in taxes we do pay. So yeah it should be public domain since we “bought” it.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How does community-run servers prevent them from writing off their losses?

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I guess the loss could be argued against in court given that there is player activity, even though it's not endorsed nor hosted by them. Just speculation

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[–] uninvitedguest@piefed.ca 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You've said something with such absolute certainty that is not making sense to me.

Now I'm not versed in Japanese tax law, but Japan does follow International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS). I'm also not versed in the capitalization of video game development expenses.

A business is going to write down their asset based on their ability to generate future revenue from it. With Concord dead on arrival, it would be fair to say that they would write down everything related to the individual game development. If they left any asset on the books it would be related to the IP/trademarks/copyrights/etc (maybe some transferrable technology if they are getting really specific).

I'm not able to make the connection between issuing takedowns on community servers/videos and the accounting write off of an impaired asset. Issuing takedowns seems more in line with IP protection.

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[–] Meruten@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sony refunded everyone who bought the game though.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 148 points 3 days ago (13 children)

A seller doesn’t get to walk in your home, hand you a check and take your couch. The same should not be allowed for digital goods. A voluntary refund should never revoke ownership rights. But we don’t actually have ownership rights any more, do we? Or any rights.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Digital ownership is probably going to happen, but it's going to take a generation of politicians to die off. Once we get more people that understand computers and digital goods aren't magic, there can be change.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 95 points 3 days ago (7 children)

they don't even run their servers anymore, it's not like the fan servers are competing with them...

is sony turning into another nintendo/disney? flexing their copyright muscle just because they can?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Turning into? They’ve always been this way. It’s been like 20 years since they decided it was ok to install rootkits on people’s PCs to protect their IP rights.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sony has been shit for much longer than 20 years, kiddo.

It's interesting. I did a quick search, and couldn't quickly find many complaints about them before 2000, but technical people complained a lot about Sony products back then. The biggest complaint was that Sony did everything themselves. So, every component inside a piece of electronic equipment was made by Sony, and every time they could get away with it, it would have a custom footprint or custom specs, so that it was impossible to find replacement parts without getting them directly from Sony at huge markups.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I said always, I just used an example from this century. Your comment does remind me of the UMD disks and their propriety sd cards

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[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They've kinda always been shit to gamers, they just hid it from console gaming; PC gamers frequently got shafted by SOE.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

I don’t even think they really hid it from the console space. Their entire PS3 launch was peak hubris. They just don’t step on rakes as much as Microsoft does, and Nintendo would shoot a litter of puppies if it helped them protect their IP rights, so they look better in comparison.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago

They have always been this way:

Although Sony ultimately did not win any of its lawsuits against them, Bleem! had to shut down when the huge court costs became too much for the small company to handle. Bleem! shut down in November 2001…

Source

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Turning into? Sony has been worse than Nintendo or Disney for years. They're the OG "we're going to silently brick your machine to protect our digital assets."

At least Nintendo had the decency to put in their EULA that they're going to fuck you for trying to pirate content on their proprietary hardware. Sony just bricked your personal PC because fuck you and then lied about it.

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[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 73 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So let me get this straight... They're still burning money on Concord through legal costs? Just walk away guys.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sony is doing a Tax write off 100%

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Once in a while Sony reconfirms my choice to boycott them since the rootkit CD scandal in the 00s.

[–] gressen@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've made a whole series of purchase decisions based on similar motivation. For decades I've avoided DSLRs, consoles, games, phones, tablets and a whole bunch of products made by Sony. I pirate what I can, everything else is just off-limits.

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 38 points 1 day ago (10 children)

They really hate their own fans. Be aware of that next time you purchase any Sony product.

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[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago

Had to laugh, here I am scrolling Lemmy and see a post about those server existing, random post next, then this one.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How weird is it that there are people who liked Concord so much that they spent all of their time and money to get something patched together just so they could play it again.

Didn't it overwhelmingly bomb and had like no players towards the end?

Anyways good for them and screw Sony lawyers.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

IIRC, it wasn’t a terrible game. It just wasn’t a unique enough game to compete in the space. Just another hero shooter. Just another live service. And thus it failed to meet overinflated expectations. Sony didn’t give it any time to grow or adapt.

Sony went all in on live service games, expecting them to all do gangbusters and to do so for forever. Their high expectations are slipping and failing to be met with Destiny. They bought Bungie for live service games too.

Oh, and Marathon. That one is in a precarious spot. Being delayed after an unexpectedly rough public beta.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Marathon being brought back as a live servive extraction shooter/battle royale was an immediate turn off for me, personally.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 days ago

Hurry! Release the server code on the high seas before the Sony lawyers find you!!!

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

StopKillingGames? More like StopMurderingGamesAndExecutingThemInColdBlood.

Assholes

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 day ago

Pissing off perhaps the only fans of this failure lol

[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Ahh yes, just the PR Sony wants after Valve dropped an atomic bomb of an announcement.

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[–] Auth@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

you'd think they would be happy people are going out of their way to preserve the service. It gives them excuse to shut down their servers if they can point to these. but nope

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh it's never about that. You can't milk a game that lives for free. Although they pay for publicity (ads, etc.), getting it for free means less cash flow, means less numbers on quarterly earnings, means less investor money.

It is always about the number on their bank account, never about you, me, or anyone else. They don't give a flying fuck, they'd happily let us burn in a house fire if it meant just a teensy bit more dollars.

Fuck Sony, Nintendo, EA, Ubisoft, ActiBlizzosoft, and the rest of them.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 24 points 3 days ago

Another DMCA abuse

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

There's isn't even an IP argument to be had. They abandoned the game, so why pay a lawyer to ~~sew~~sue?

Edit to correct.

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[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago
[–] SnowPenguin@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

So, it's all about control, at the end.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So DMCA takedowns are only for gameplay videos, they haven't sent any takedown (or any other) notice to whoever is hosting / running / developing the custom server code.

It will be interesting to see how it progresses.

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[–] pyria@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 1 day ago

So they invest millions in a project that fundamentally failed, ax the official servers prematurely and pretend it doesn't exist.

But then go after people who still bother with it.

They ought to be fucking thankful people still play it at all.

[–] Howlinghowler110th@kbin.earth 15 points 3 days ago

Sony: we think it's the gamers fault the game isn't successful.

gamers: hey, can we play it then?

Sony: fuck off

[–] zaki_ft@lemmings.world 14 points 2 days ago

Thank you everyone for giving them money so they can use that money against us.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 10 points 3 days ago

Nintendo: I am the shittiest!

Sony: Hold my beer...

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Must be nice to simply write off 250+ million. Sony needs to be broken up.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Because of course they would, what a bunch of dicks.

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