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[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 72 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

And it will last til Gabe dies. Then I guarantee it enshittifes so fast it will make your head spin.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 42 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

As long Valve doesn’t become publicly traded they will be fine. The problems start when companies optimize for shareholder value rather than customer value.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 24 points 15 hours ago

Private equity buyout would be the same problem but even faster.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 13 points 12 hours ago

You think there aren't a bunch of greedy finance whores biding their time until Gabe dies in order to take over and enshitify everything so they can squeeze as much money out of Steam as possible?

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

So tencent or a saudi prince buys them and it will be fine guyyyyssss haha

Nothing ever bad happens under private ownership either right?

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 14 hours ago

Well yeah, that will be the potential first sign to look out for. If that happens no need to think it won't get worse like everything else.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Na. Even privatly traded companies can enshittify when it gets inherited to people not sharing the same vision as the one that made the company successful.

If you want to prevent enshittification more long term, convert it to a non-profit cooperative, with a work ethic that promotes providing the best service over short term profit.

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[–] Davel23@fedia.io 23 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe. I've heard Gabe's son is set to take over when the time comes, hopefully he's been raised right.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Hmm. The founder's son usually just squeezes the company for profit.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

citation needed

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[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 4 points 15 hours ago

Really!? Gives me hope!

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

He should turn it into a non-profit right before he dies and put the ip under a foundation or something so it can’t be sold off in pieces.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago

He wont though

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[–] Reiea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 hours ago

100% this. He's definitely keeping a bunch of bad stuff at bay.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

As soon as the business people gain control they will pivot everything to maximize profit. Enshitification is just a euphemism for business.

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[–] D06M4@lemmy.zip 66 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I only buy games on Steam, GOG and ItchIO. The main reason I don't give a cent to stores from EA, Ubisoft or Epic Games anymore is their services and terms are horrible. I'm all in for supporting competition when it's good competition.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 23 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

I would buy from GOG too, if they provided Linux support in form of an official launcher. And if available also official Linux builds. Back in the days GOG did that, but they stopped doing it. And before someone comes after me, I know there are alternative launchers on Linux. But I don't want to give GOG money for work others doing it for free. I don't want support a company who only cares about Windows.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

In the past, before Proton, if a game was available at comparable prices on GOG and on Steam, I'd buy it on GOG, also because no DRM meant better compatibility. After Proton, my purchases from GOG went way down.

You can run GOG games via Proton these days btw!

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 10 points 12 hours ago

I bought Resident Evil 0 on GOG yesterday but Heroic wouldn't download the game for some reason (stuck at 0%). Refunded, got it on Steam for cheaper and it launched right away.

Sometimes I purchase on GOG out of principle and for some reason they always punish me for it.

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 hours ago

I could understand this sentiment for any pc-platform but GOG. After all, they are the only ones (afaik) that make their launcher optional. And while i do ocassionally use launcher-functionalities from for example steam, i would much rather not have to bother with it if i didnt have to.

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[–] RustySharp@programming.dev 9 points 13 hours ago

stores from EA, Ubisoft or Epic

Better yet, games

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 37 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Steam is the very, very rare case of a major company that is both not beholden to shareholders, and has a pretty good guy at the helm.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

I feel like they've earned it because they've put in the most work. They are the best in the game because they make the user experience the best there is. EA, Ubisoft, and Microsoft have/had their own storefronts or launchers but they are clunky and unpleasant to deal with and the only benefits they had were exclusives. They've never put any effort into user experience and were mainly doing it to make themselves more money and it definitely showed. The only one that's ever been a real competitor is Epic Launcher. And while it has gotten better over the years, the user experience is still not anywhere near Steam. And even now the Epic Launcher is still unpleasant to deal with in a lot of cases unless you just use it to play Fortnite.

With Steam everything just works and is basically seamless. Not only that, before Steam the modding community for most games had an immense learning curve and most people just avoided it save for Minecraft. And as far as I can tell you can't even mod games you buy on the Microsoft Store because their file structure is atrocious.

The only storefront I wish was better/more popular was GOG. It's not bad and has a lot of benefits (Like no DRM and offline installers), but Steam just makes everything so easy it's hard not to get stuck with them once you've started.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago

Offline installers are the reason I only use my money on gog. I like to have control over the things I own, though it's getting harder and harder these days. But where it's still possible I use it, and gog is the only storefront that offers this service (which beats every other service I could think of).

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The only storefront I wish was better/more popular was GOG. It’s not bad and has a lot of benefits (Like no DRM and offline installers), but Steam just makes everything so easy it’s hard not to get stuck with them once you’ve started.

Well the no DRM/offline installer part is the most important part. I buy a game, I download and install it. If I need more features I may be better off with Steam anyway.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

As far as I know the Steam DRM is not mandatory to use for developers.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, I still need to go through Steam for every install.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 16 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

While many accuse Valve of monopolising the PC gaming market, others argue that Steam's dominance is simply the result of doing things right.

These assertions do not contradict. I cannot overstress that.

This whole article is 'Valve's monopoly is fine because they did things right.'

Having one good store is not, in itself, a problem. But it does mean we're one fuckup away from having no good stores.

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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

People feel good about Valve because they don’t rely on anti consumer behavior. It does what I want and doesn’t enforce me on other crap.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 5 points 12 hours ago

I'm a fan of Valve and Steam too. But you cannot deny that Valve does shitty stuff too. In example Valve is the company who either invented or popularized Loot Boxes. And they don't do anything about the Black Market for the item trading and selling, such as Counter Strike skins and so on. And there are other little things that could be done, but nothing else upsets me as this.

But besides that, for the most part I love Valve. The commitment to support on Linux is unmatched in the gaming world. As a private company, Valve can do whatever they want. I genuinely think that PC gaming wouldn't be this good without Valve. If anything, Microsoft would have the power... which in an alternate universe people have to suffer.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

Steam kinda killed gaming piracy for many. Hope they won't go the Netflix way in the future.

[–] exu@feditown.com 10 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

Devs are still free to sell their game outside of Steam and charge whatever price they want for that version

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[–] ethaver@kbin.earth 7 points 16 hours ago

I will say they were less weirdly invasive than whatever it was EA had me running just to play sims 2 in 2017ish. Why tf do you really need to protect you IP that hard for a game that old with newer sequels for???

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