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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/38674008

The supreme court has issued an emergency order temporarily blocking full Snap food aid payments.

The high court’s order came after the Trump administration asked a federal appeals court on Friday to block a judge’s order that it distribute November’s full monthly food stamp benefits amid a US federal government shutdown.

After that request to block was denied, the Trump administration turned to the supreme court in a further attempt to block the order to fully fund Snap food aid payments.

The application to stay reads: “If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds. Worse, these harms will only compound if the decision below stands.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 119 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds.

They are emergency funds. This is what they're there for!

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 48 points 18 hours ago

Losing a tiny amount of money from the federal budget is irreparable harm. But starvation? Just fine.

This Supreme Court is a joke. I just heard they’ve ruled with the fascists over 90% of the time.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think they mean it's "harm" to not be allowed to starve people...

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

To their sense of control

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago

They could defund ICE and have money to spare.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 11 hours ago

An EMERGENCY? Poor people starving to death? That's not an emergency, that's an agenda.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 52 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

After a Boston appeals court declined to immediately intervene, Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson issued an order late Friday pausing the requirement to distribute full SNAP payments until the appeals court rules on whether to issue a more lasting pause. Jackson handles emergency matters from Massachusetts.

What the fuck is Justice Jackson doing ? Fucking I give up on the whole lot of them "Justices" now.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 127 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

What the fuck is Justice Jackson doing ?

Here's one analysis:

Jackson gets this application because it's from the 1st circuit, and she is assigned to initially handle all shadow docket matters from the 1st circuit. By writing this admin stay, she potentially keeps the full court from stepping in and doing it for her. And this way she gets to set the 48 hour limit. This could cause the whole case to be decided one way or another a lot faster.

The supreme court let the trans passport case sit on the shadow "emergency" docket for 48 days. This stay gives the 1st circuit approx the weekend to make their decision, then the 48 hour deadline puts some oomph on the rest of scotus to make their decision.

If Justice Jackson did nothing, and 5 votes on the court intervened to issue a stay at 1 am, then there would be no 48 hour limit.

[–] Dionysus@leminal.space 29 points 20 hours ago

God damn you bringing all this rational and logic to a discussion. ~~This is reddit dammit! ~~ I have been informed this is not ::: reddit :::.

Either way, damn you, I just want to be angry! No thinky! Angry!

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago

Thank you so much for the breakdown.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Trying to start a riot to force Martial Law, at least from what I've heard.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

She is one of the (few) good guys with power.

She is not working towards marshal law

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 51 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

So they want to starve people.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 9 points 15 hours ago

It really sucks for the people that didn't vote for this, but for everyone who did or was too lazy to get out and vote... I will be taking great schadenfreude in listening to them complain.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

I've been saying this for weeks, they want people to riot... they are trying to manufacture a reason to enact martial law...

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

No. They want to steal from people. The abject cruelty left in the wake of that is just an added benefit.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago

They don't consider the ones starving "people".

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Starvation is an economically efficient way to reduce the population, just like Israel or Russia have done, two of Trump's best friends. Only the poor ones will die, so it works great.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

They can always force the poors to have more children for slave labor

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 44 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

“If forced to transfer funds to Snap to make full November allotments, there is no means for the government to recoup those expenditures – which is quintessential irreparable harm. Once those payments are made, there is every indication that the States will promptly disburse them. And once disbursed, the government will be un-able to recover any funds. Worse, these harms will only compound if the decision below stands.

“There is every reason to expect that if the shutdown lingers, the court below will not command the government to tap these funds again in December to support Snap – blowing a bigger hole in the budget for the child nutrition programs.”

This is absolute bullshit. Those funds have already been allocated by Congress in the 2023 Farm Bill. The money is already authorized for use for the next few years. They don't need to "find it" somewhere else, or "get it back" at some future date. It is literally sitting ina find account, waiting to be used.

The only reason these benefits would be held up for any reason during a government shut down, is if the staff in charge of distributing that money are not currently working. That's what the $6 billion emergency fund is for. Paying the federal employees needed to make sure that money gets to its pre-authorized destination.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 14 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

They don’t need to “find it” somewhere else, or “get it back” at some future date. It is literally sitting ina find account, waiting to be used.

You're assuming Trump hasn't already appropriated those funds and handed them to ICE or his rich buddies. How the hell can he loot the government if courts are allowed to force him to spend money where Congress tells him to spend it?

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

My theory is that they already spent/stole the money and it's literally not there.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 41 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

If the democrats win and don’t impeach these criminal Supreme Court justices …shit is going to hit the fan

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They'll retake control in the midterms and do fuck all as they always do. Watched this my whole fucking life.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Seriously. Not getting aggressive with Nixon directly lead to trump and this whole criminal administration. Sherman didn't march far enough.

We really need more AOCs and the other three. And definitely more Mandami's, but aggressive, in local positions.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The Supreme Court Problem should be a top priority in the 2026 Midterms. People are already tired of being pushed around by the Supreme Court, which is supposed to protect us from government overreach.

Interracial and Gay marriage are on the chopping block under MAGA, and who knows what else these psychopaths will think of? People are scared of how the Supreme Court is being manipulated.

Dems need to run on increasing seats on the the Supreme Court, and impeaching Clarence Thomas for his many, many crimes.

Add 4 seats, get rid of Thomas, and the Dems would have 8 seats, and MAGA would have 6. And if a MAGA seat opens up, Dems need to go to war to take that seat, McConnell style.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

thomas and alito both, are obviously paid for. everyone else on the bench should have their entire lives upended in a very thorough fbi investigation, uncover and publicize any and all skeletons they have hidden in the closest then impeach as necessary.

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[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 37 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

So the argument is that "if we give people food, and then they eat that food, then we are harmed because we cannot make them give us back that food that they ate"?

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Well... I suppose the public could give them back the food they ate, after they ate it.. but it would be smelly..

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 3 points 20 hours ago

I always said these people were dumb.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago

Like the messages on government websites blaming democrats for the shutdown, snap recipients should be directed to the homes of the members of the Supreme Court, to find who is to blame. Ruling on other's hunger. This is no high court.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 32 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

So, let me get this straight -

Either the Dems surrender health care for Americans,

or...

MAGA is going to starve us to death?

Imagine when American citizens, even children, start dying of STARVATION in America because the wealthiest government in the world, led by dozens of Psychopathic Oligarchs, DELIBERATELY engineered it so they could pay less taxes?

Yeah, that's the government we want.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 7 hours ago

Vernichtung durch Arbeit has always been capitalism's end goal

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe this will inspire some people to vote differently?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 53 minutes ago

It could, if anybody on the Dem side had any idea how to market ideas to the people. If I were the DNC, I would put massive billboards all over every city in America that say:

MAGA wants you to SURRENDER YOUR HEALTH CARE, OR

The RICHEST will STARVE the POOREST,

To DEATH.

Don't be a hostage. Resist.

But they won't because it wouldn't be polite to the PedoCons. And we all know how polite they are.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 31 points 13 hours ago

“Our attorneys will not stop fighting, day and night, to defend and advance President Trump’s agenda,” said attorney general, Pam Bondi

Tells you everything you need to know. And they finally free enough to just come out and say it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

How many reasons do the Dems need before they start seriously talking about adding at least 4.seats to the Supreme Court? That's the kind of bold promise that many people will vote for, especially if they are in interracial or gay marriages, because those won't survive another MAGA administration.

And when we take our country back, we also need to impeach Clarence Thomas, and imprison both him and his treasonous bulldog wife.

It's time to re-balance the Supreme Court.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago

Clarence Thomas for Guantanamo Bay 2026

[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Sitting back here as a Canadian and wondering wtf is wrong with Americans. This okay for most of you? Cause this mf and his minions need justice dealt swift and furiously like NOW. Do you need Canadians to teach you how to circumvent the Geneva Convention or something to get the job done? Jfc unbelievable.

[–] whatmeworry@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not okay for most of us. We’re trying to fix this but realistically it will take some time. And pain.

[–] grindemup@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

That's not true, most of you voted for this or approved of it by not voting. That's not to say all of you. There are millions of Americans against this and we support you, but the problem is that the majority are, well, fucked. That's what needs to be addressed.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

They want riots so they can take control of the cities. We’ve already started voting these clowns out. How would you address this as a lone citizen?

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[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 15 points 21 hours ago

Of course. Of fucking course. Why the fuck wouldn't they?

Fuckers.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Soooo much winning everywhere!…

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

My deepest sympathies to all Americans, even the ones who support Trump. At the end of the day, they're just victims of the system like the rest. And no matter the outcome of the last election, this was inevitable, Trump or no Trump. At best it could have been postponed by a few years.

I wish it was different, but I can't see all of this ending with anything less than a full blown revolution and/or world war. Nobody wants this and everyone would like to avoid this, but it just doesn't look at all possible right now.

After long decades of enslavement, brain washing, tyranny, and terror, a good chunk of Americans is realizing that there's no world in which this is acceptable or excusable.

In addition, there's finally again a superpower to rival the USA.Whatever your feelings on the USSR or China - there can never be just one superpower, because we've seen what that leads to. I wish it was the European Union, but it looks like the USA was mostly successful in destroying all efforts for Europe to become truly great and powerful. At the very least China is currently more friendly than the USA has ever been. Let's hope they keep this attitude even after America crumbles. That's probably the most optimistic scenario I can think of.

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