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[โ€“] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hey, don't leave early millennials out. We're in our 40's and barely left square 1.

[โ€“] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shit yeah man. I'm like $15,000 in the hole because of COVID, having to care for an elderly parent, and having my own medical crisis. And that's after insurance! ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[โ€“] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

American millennials are a whole different game. I'm a pampered European social democrat. Saw the election results from New York and thought: "Good for them... He's a bit on the conservative side by our standards, but a step in the right direction". ๐Ÿ˜†

[โ€“] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hell of a thing. "Conservatives" here think he's Mao reincarnated.

[โ€“] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Conservatives are mentally-ill fascists. They can't be reasoned with because they have no reason.

[โ€“] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Conservatives here don't know who Mao is because many can't read, and the ones who can certainly don't read history books.

[โ€“] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Six months from now:

Mayor Mamdani announces plan to kill every pigeon in NYC.

[โ€“] xandertron@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

government drones finally being destroyed!

[โ€“] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Was actually a reference to one of Mao's more dubious policies.

[โ€“] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There's a reason Hitler cribbed a lot from conservative America......

[โ€“] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

IDK. If it wasn't for my chronic health issues, I could at least have had a pretty decent career until now, and I definitely benefited from times when social security wasn't completely eroded yet and housing prices were still affordable. And I actually remember times when you didn't have to wait over half a year for a doctor's appointment (not that they were much use for any of my issues...).

If you become an adult now you have even less of a chance.

[โ€“] Beebabe@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Born in the late 80s. Saw a tiny peek of the world before the rug pull.

[โ€“] Asafum@feddit.nl 21 points 2 days ago

I feel like this is almost worse in a way. We grew up with the future looking bright only to have it all collapse under us... We knew what we could have had and instead were given rampant corruption, war, economic and environmental collapse, and growing authoritarianism... Fun stuff... :/

[โ€“] ZonenRanslite@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago

Born early 80s in GDR (socialism part of Germany). Freedom at last in 1990. Now, in 2025, all shit again.

[โ€“] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mid nighties here and I feel the same way.

I think the reason I feel people had it better off back in those times could be related to the lack of a constant internet connection.

Before the internet, a lot of us couldn't see how terrible things actually were on a global level. It's also possible things have always been this way and just weren't talked about by the general public UNTIL the internet (i.e. Palestine).

I could be completely wrong and just correlating things with me growing up and seeing how awful things actually are.

[โ€“] FridaySteve@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We've gone from "sex sells" to "rage sells" and it's reflected in all media. I've been on the internet since 1994 and I was on BBSs before that. In the 80s we were always taught to be cautious about the motivation behind public communication, whether that's advertising, news, posters on telephone poles, or people yelling on street corners. Nowadays people walk around in a constant state of despair and furious rage over "seeing how awful things actually are". The conflict in Israel has been going on since 632, for example.

If there's an active conspiracy out there, it's a handful of super wealthy folks in media are producing content that causes you to hyperfocus on Agent Orange and his band of fascist wannabes because that's the politics you have the least control over and has the least control over you. They want people's minds flooded with hand-wringing anguish because it stops them from focusing on their own family and community and making things better for people in their orbit, which would cause them to potentially lose a little bit of power. If you want to buck the system, start with your own city council, I promise that your local zoning board has plenty for you to be angry with.

[โ€“] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The president of the United States has the least control over US citizens? I was with you until you wrote that. That is absolutely incorrect. And even if it was correct, local authorities never sent the national guard just to scare and demoralize the population. If you want to tune out and pretend things aren't worse in the US than before, in many ways, go ahead, but don't try and delude others on your way.

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Don't try and just group history together and tell me "tHeRe hAS bEEn cOnFLicT tHeRe bEfoRe iSrAeL".

The crusades are one thing.

The formation of states by deciding their borders, deciding that one of these states is now intended to now house an entire ethnicity, and having that new state be a western military power that is now completely unrestricted is another thing entirely.

  • The conflict is not "in Israel", it's in Palestine.
  • The conflict has been in there since the formation of the military state of israel.
[โ€“] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Lol.

Older millennial here. Born way before 97.

Great Recession when I was recently out of college and trying to get into more serious employment.

Didn't have a career or any type of financial security until I was 35. Was generally the same for most of my peers.

Welcome to hell.

[โ€“] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Seriously. A lot of millennials I know realize our retirement plan is suicide.

[โ€“] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

End if the 80's here. You can set your bags over there by the wall.

Pretty accurate I admit

[โ€“] qarbone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

We got to get inside the building right when they set it on fire

[โ€“] P1k1e@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well if this guy was born in 97, we can't really expect him to know that....well you just told him so NOW he knows. Or he just thinks your old and complaining and to be fair, it's what old people are good at

[โ€“] mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

97 graduated during the strong economy right before covid. They probably are doing fine and riding out the covid-AI-inflation death spiral as well as anybody else in the job market.

2005 is fucked.

[โ€“] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

90s millennials really got lucky. Too young to be affected by 2008 crash and just getting out of high school to take advantage of Obamas economy. If they played their cards right they bought houses or invested when Trump was putting trillions into the stock market to prop it up and keep interest rates low.

[โ€“] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You could just put 1990 to today...

[โ€“] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

More like sometime around 1971-1980. That's when the boomers started to become a major voting block and pull up the ladders behind them; promoting neoliberalism, privatisation, and the destruction of social programs that they benefited from, thus destroying wealth equality and the working class. Women entered the workforce en mass, and out sourcing started.

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

[โ€“] ddplf@szmer.info 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why these years in specific?

[โ€“] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Could not finish elementary school because of the financial crisis? The f do I know

[โ€“] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People born in 2005 probably have no idea what Nero Burning ROM is...

[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago

Exactly. I was using Nero in 2005...

[โ€“] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My mistake, changed it.

[โ€“] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

It's 85 not 97 or whatever. Dickheads with a house and family are gen x here, very often ๐Ÿ˜†

[โ€“] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 11 points 2 days ago

"Now, I realize that may seem like a lot of fire, but don't worry: You only get to pick one of them in which to burn."

[โ€“] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nero was in a position of power and hypothetically could have done something, hence the criticism of him for 'fiddling while Rome burned.' Are you suggesting the twenty-something year olds of this world have some power to turn things around?

[โ€“] Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The Nero fiddling was entirely slander, and saying he probably could and should have done something is complaining after the fact. He was a day away from Rome when he heard a fire had started, he hauled ass back there, and he personally ran around with the fire brigades to pull people from the wrecks, oppening food supplies, gardens for shelters. And then after all that he plowed the debris away and set new building regulations to make sure a big fire couldn't do that much damage again - so he did actually do a lot about it. And then he took the empty space to build his golden palace and that's what got people pissed and rumors spreading. Before all that, he wasn't doing anything weirder than anyone else, beside sitting by while his mom murdered everybody else to sit him on a throne that he didn't care for (and then he murdered her to be free of the abuse). The people liked him, it's the nobles/rich who didn't. Historians tried to blame him, but it's clear there was no easy prevention method beside razing and rebuilding; Rome was long known as a fire hazard with shit wooden buildings and zero ventilation safety, fires weren't rare. The blame game didn't come from what he could have done before and didn't do or from any sort of prescience that he should have had that no one else had before, it's purely religious propaganda after the fact, when he tried to place the blame to some weirdo sect. Hell, he might even have been right, but we'll never know.

[โ€“] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 points 21 hours ago

No idea. Rome was never my bag. As far as OP, though, I can only guess they didn't have quite your interest in the subject either.

[โ€“] bluemoon@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago

wanted Marcus Aurelius, got Nero

[โ€“] Busyvar@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rage baiting are we?

[โ€“] orioler25@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It has been awfully exciting.

[โ€“] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

What's Marcus Crassus in this metaphor?

Welcome, it's been like this for a while.
We have no idea what to do about it.

[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't this exact text posted a little while ago with an AI spam picture? I swear I saw it in the feed before

I changed the picture

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