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[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 140 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Of course Bavaria. Everyone one else in Europe is thinking about moving away from US companies but Bavaria is killing of OSS initatives to move to the MS cloud...

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 72 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bavaria, the Texas of Europe

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

It really is. Nürnberg, München and Starnberger See are lovely though. Possibly other places too. But there's simply too much old money trying to cling to the status quo and not let go.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bavaria gives a shit about climate protecting iniatives

"giving a shit" means "caring about", I think you meant the opposite

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah in German, the phrase (einen Scheiß geben) means the opposite.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 22 hours ago

"drauf" fehlt noch :-)

[–] dmalteseknight@programming.dev 2 points 17 hours ago

Probably wanted to say "shits on"

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[–] seitzer@piefed.social 120 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Reminder: Microsoft relocated their headquarters to Munich after they scored the win to abandon LiMux, the first OSS project in a big city. This is just the return on investment. Works very well in a state that doesn't care for high level corruption.

Edit: Bavaria also meddled with the decision to adopt Open Document Text as defacto standard in Germany. My memory is a little bit blurry on this and internet search for older articles is just...non-existent anymore.

Anyway, that decision was reversed .

Edit 2: There might be something else going on in the background as well. Lidl/Schwarz and SAP are going heavy on the "German Cloud". They are both from Baden-Württemberg, another power-player in the south. This almost looks like a standoff.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 84 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's the USA terminology, in Europe it is called corruption.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You would think so. But in Germany they are also called lobbyists.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well yes because lobbying is an actual part of getting the message out to representatives. You're advocating for them to do something. In itself there's nothing wrong with lobbying but people just always associate it with quod pro quo corruption shit.

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[–] BigShammy80@feddit.org 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And no one gives a fuck about it! How can this obvious corruption be tolerated?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  1. it's systemic. There's no representative democracy without some degree of corruption.
  2. People are alienated from politics: they think that it's the politician's job to do politics and disengage (until they feel they get screwed over)
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But we have been getting screwed over from day 1

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Exactly.

So the only viable strategy (for system that's screwing us over) is to make the people believe that "there is no alternative" to neoliberalism.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 54 points 2 days ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bavaria has rarely shown smart political decisions in the last decades.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Kind of just did the worst move possible at every point since Bismarck showed up with a fun idea

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The amount of hate i have for Söder could power a little village

[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just not a Bavarian village. Renewable energy is too woke.

[–] richardwonka@mas.to 2 points 3 hours ago

@GandalftheBlack and the hate/exasperation at Söder has auto-renewal guaranteed.

He is such a moron.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Einstein's quote about infinite stupidity comes to mind....

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The stupid ones are the people who keep voting for this party, though. Have a Hitler quote for that: "How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." (apparently meant without sarcasm)

The politicians are just self-serving assholes.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago

Söder is not wise

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago

Bye everyone I'm getting uploaded to the cloud apparently

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

If you were a criminal convicted of espionage, then good luck to you for finding a job, especially in government. But if you're called Microsoft, then it's alright.

[–] Econode@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 days ago

Like you know that the kid surely will hit the only lamp post on the whole parking ground while learning to ride the bicycle you know what happens when Markus Söder is in charge.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 16 points 2 days ago

Of course Bavaria would.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

No! Noooooo!

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Germany should just abandon that state (and Saxony where all the Nazis are). Together, they are the bane of Germany. One holding it back and the other wanting to make Putin their savior.

[–] klangcola@reddthat.com 16 points 1 day ago

Divide Germany you say? I feel like that's been done before

[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A high enough wall surrounding those two states, maybe including Thuringia (Nazis) and Saxony-Anhalt (also Nazis) would be a good first step...

[–] Mad_Punda@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some of us still have relatives there who are not Nazis.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have time to get out.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I rather move the Nazis to Saxony.

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[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 20 hours ago

Fick die bayern

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

Nochmal Bayern!

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

Wrong direction ↪️

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Friends don't let friends get Microsoft software when they're drunk.

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