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[–] groolthedemon@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This has actually frightened me for years. There are fucking weirdo's out there that believe so much in the Bible that I think they are actively trying to make the end times prophecy happen rather than just, you know.... Evolve?

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the whole reason the racist Right "supports" Israel. It's not that they believe Jews should be treated equally, but that they need them to bring about their armageddon.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 2 days ago

It's reciprocal from the Jewish religious nutters.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

My personal pet theory is that these weirdo's are just afraid of dying. Christianity is fundamentally a death cult. Die now and get rewarded in heaven. But these extreme evangelicals found a loophole: the rapture. During the end times god saves all the true believers. Boom, a one way ticket to heaven without having to die. So these lunatics are actively trying to make the end times happen so they don't miss out and they don't have to die.

[–] Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I honestly find it baffling. If you believe in heaven, why would you fear death? Not saying you're wrong, I just cannot comprehend that mindset.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean fearing death is human instinct and not really something based in logic.

I agree about that. That makes perfect sense. It's when you start factoring in religion that it all breaks down for me.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It makes sense if they think they're going to hell, but that would require having a level of self-awareness I don't believe anyone trying to actively cause the end of times can possess.

[–] Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That makes even less sense. If you don't think you qualify to get into heaven, why would you desire to speed up the rapture? You'd just get left behind anyway.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, I assumed that the rapture would work in a different way than regular death for some reason so maybe true believers could still go to heaven even if they're sinners. If it's all the same then yeah, I have no idea what their logic is either.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

rapture is a evangelical creation, im not surprised. many SHOWS have co-opted this when it includes christian themes.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

alot of them are spending a ton on "longevity" regimes, which has not shown scientific,peer reviewed sources to work or have any appearance as groundbreaking. its mostly homeopathy, nauropathy and psuedoscience. one rich dude named bryan thompson took it to the extreme, he claims to be doing science but hes self-testing, he actually looks worst for his age. found out him indirectly through a guest youtuber on a right wing poc channel once, apparently the guy DUmped her when she got stage 3 Breast cancer(if you read between the lines it makes him look bad, and reminds him of his mortality), she did try to sue him once.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If I was on the writing team of the next SMT game and made villains like that, I'd be called "an atheistic edgelord", who wrote a cartoonishly evil cult to satisfy my thirst for hatred of religion.

(Not that I'm not an atheistic edgelord with a hatred of organized religion, just that atheism got a bad reputation, due to many taking the "cartoonishly evil" cult's side in the culture wars, because they didn't blew up cars (at that time - see the cybertruck bomber).)

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 days ago

Joke is on them; rapture and ascension are internal processes, not external.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Just for comedic value I'd like for God to actually exist. I imagine He wouldn't appreciate their attempts at manipulation.

Sometimes this kind of people sounds like they believe in the Bible and prophecies as impersonal laws of nature, and not in an intelligent creator of any sort.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago

Sometimes this kind of people sounds like they believe in the Bible and prophecies as impersonal laws of nature, and not in an intelligent creator of any sort.

Kind of. If a supreme being set into motion certain universal laws and always thwarted them for the benefit of this or that, one or group, the laws would be arbitrary, thus pointless. It's up to us to let the pressures d/evolve us according to the idea of (a limited by circumstances and variables) somewhat free will. Some believers consider the most ignorant and slavish among ourselves closer to God than the most refined with the most spiritual knowledge and/or means. Iow it's not the means but how they are utilized.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 2 days ago

I think they are actively trying to make the end times prophecy happen

They are, here and abroad. Zionists extreme extremists are trying to genetically engineer the perfect calf to sacrifice on the Temple Dome, in Israel. Christian extreme extremists in the US fund them.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

It's not the only thing they have in common.

They are also gonna be the cause of it.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 2 days ago

Thanks so much for this share, OP. A veritable smorgasbord of food for thought, although a good portion gives vapors and indigestion.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

they want to hide in thier little bunkers fortresses. basically some doomsday movies, and shows. the short lived show, 4400 is basically the result of this(they hide in thier gated, pristine cities while everything outside is a madmax environement.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Not hide. They want to return the developed world to literal medieval-style surfdom economics. It's total egotistical delusion.

The only thing I can respond with is:

wut

It's some new mental illness? Is it just sociopathy?

Is it fried ketamine brain?

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, but consider that the ultra-rich technofascists are a group that has had a disproportionate impact on the continued pillaging of the climate. They aren't just opportunists wanting to make the most of the fragments of society that will remain after climate disaster, but people who have been working to bring that scenario into fruition because it's profitable in the short term whilst positioning them to take even more power.

I cannot emphasise enough that they want this, and that this ideology goes further back than the current wave of them. The reality of climate change is unfathomably dire, but I hope you understand why it's necessary to resist these people as part of whatever climate resilience we can build. I'll probably be dead before shit really hits the fan, climate-wise, so my goal is to do whatever I can to support the people who come after me. If those techno-assholes are allowed to inherit the fragments of society, the entire planet is even more fucked

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] commander@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

All these weirdo billionaires building bunkers

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

Related and from a "history of religion in the US" POV.

https://youtu.be/LvmwGwnJf7c