California passes Prop 50 in a landslide.
this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2025
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Honestly, this is arguably the most significant thing for America for the night. Countering Texas’ Gerrymander is big, but it’s not as sexy of a story.
Yeah, I agree, that is also very important. But I still think that getting rid of Pelosi and the other ghouls in the DNC would/could be the most important thing right now. The Democratic Party desperately needs a renewal, a progressive reform and to embrace real left-wing, socialist politics to save the middle class from sliding down and help poor people to break out - as opposed to give in to every wish and whim of billionaire oligarchs who are stealing literally all wealth from the rest of society.
The whole 'let's follow the republicans further and further to the right to grab the centrist's votes' idea clearly is not working. It is not making peoples' lives better (except for the oligarchs). And it is not even helping democrats win elections and secure power any more.
Appeasement didn't work against the nazis, why would it work against MAGA?
But unfortunately Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries and the rest of these cronies are all absolutely hellbent on keeping up with the appeasement. They all need to retire or get primaried, or the US is lost to fascism for who knows how many decades.
The way I always put it, moving left may not win us elections (and those imagining a quiet leftist supermajority need to talk to more normies), but sure as shit it's been proven that neither will moving right.
Moving left will improve the country, while moving right will make it worse.
Ceteris paribus, the choice should be obvious: moving left isn't a panacea for our electoral problems, but it is still very much the preferable choice. Caution may be called for on specific issues, but in general, the American electorate is not very ideological in any coherent sense. 'Left' and 'right' are feelings for them, and they'll side with whichever 'sounds good' at a given moment.
Let's purge the Dems of these ancient neoliberal ghouls and move fucking left. I'm so fucking tired. If we still lose, at least this time we'll lose with a little basic fucking dignity. Which isn't much, but still a hell of a lot better than selling out and losing anyway.
I find it very interesting that it was put up to a vote in California. In Texas, the legislators just took it upon themselves to cheat. "Going high" is going to bite the dems in the ass eventually, though.
Texas doesn’t allow for citizens to gather signatures to put something directly on the ballot. The politicians control everything.
CA citizens used a citizen-led ballot initiative to take the redistricting keys away from the legislature. Stuff like this has to go before voters in CA.
The people are more in control in CA.
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"Going high", in this case referring to using democratic principles to govern? That's not going high, that's how the system is supposed to work.
Things are so bad that 'not cheating' is taking the high road, yeah
No, they are cheating, just with the blessing of the public. Like gerrymandering isn't a thing you should be able to do, fullstop, but it isn't something normally possible to do in California.
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It HAD to go before a vote in Cali. We didn’t have a choice politically since our independent election map commission is enshrined into the state constitution. In Texas they don’t have anything remotely enshrined into their constitution so for us here in Cali we had to put it to the people and even then it’s sorta weak since it has an exact end date in 2030. It’s only here for one cycle before it falls off and goes back. Which could be dangerous if the other states don’t stop gerrymandering.
That or we’ll just leave next time.
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I am glad that this passed in California, but this whole thing makes me feel terrible for the outlook of the country. I've been interested in counter-gerrymandering and alternative voting methods like ranked choice voting for a while now. I had loved seeing some states like California and Colorado taking steps to better elections.
But of course, having better and better elections in blue states just allowed red states to have worse and worse elections to cease control at a national level. I don't know how you fix this problem, other than to do what California did and beat them at their own game. I don't see a constitutional amendment being passed to help any time soon.
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WAIT, PELOSI IS RETIRING TOO?
What a fan-fucking-tastic day!
looks like it's a "rumor"
my guess is she's realizing people don't want a corrupt sack of bones representing them.
Like she gives a shit about the people
She probably just realized that she actually wants a retirement and to not end up like Dianne Feinstein.
We need to get the zombie voters out of congress desperately.
let me rephrase. She doesn't want the humiliation of getting her ass primaried as people decide to fuck it all to hell; causing her to lose.
This way she can go out on her own terms and pretend like she's not part of the problem while living off the shitloads of money she scammed from us.
If she had the capacity to make such profound insights she would have gotten out of the way a long time ago.
Oh cool, it's my turn to find out someone died from a meme.
Honestly this is just how I receive all my obituaries now
Glad I could help
I really dislike the fact that this pos has a meme format. His wife literally works for pedonald on destroying the education system.
Drop an alt with maybe your cartoon franchise of choice and we can see about getting it to catch on
So is it pronounced pedo-nald? Or Ped-onald?
That last one sounds more like he has a foot fetish than a small child fetish that he actually does but rolls of the tongue easier than the first one.
Maybe Peed-on-Ald? He does like getting pissed on.
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Dear diary, today wasn't shit. Thanks!
Tbf, Nancy didn't announce her retirement. The voters finally did it for her.
Schumer needs to be next and Jeffries can join him for early bird specials and get the hell out of politics - this is a serious time and you have nothing to meet this moment.
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The only way shit could possibly get better than this would be if we got all three of the very specific front-page obituaries that shall not be specifically named all happening in very short order.
I'll name them, though I don't condone violence since that almost always martyrs them and makes things worse. Just will be happy when they die of old age or McDonald's.
USA edition:
- Trump
- Stephen Miller
- Russell Vought
Int'l edition:
- Trump
- Putin
- Xi
You missed one potential party who MAY be referenced in this context:
Netanyahu is literally inflicting a Holocaust upon the Palestinian people, and his would definitely appear on the front page.
This isn't reddit, you're allowed to name them. I'm guessing you wanted Trump, Miller, and Hegseth?
Hegseth derives all his power from Trump, so if Trump's gone, he's rendered irrelevant. None of the GOP establishment likes him. Miller can definitely continue to do damage on his own, though.
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Let this be a beginning that will spread across the globe.
Btw, congrats, Americans!
The dutch had an election last week and seemed to shift from extreme right to more middle ground parties, with "dutch trump" losing his majority and two center parties gaining loads of votes. Now they just need to find a way to form a working government with 4 (or even 5) different political parties needed for a majority.
That was such great news! I had already been bracing for an overtly racist NL, so happy they didn’t go that far right!
It's giving me the best kind of whiplash.
Dick Cheney was among the worst in an administration that disrespected human rights, international law, honesty, trustworthiness and set the US reputation as well as the fight against global warming way back.
Usually, that probably would have been my last thought of him.
Except, we have this crazy timeline. This timeline, in which he was able to stand out just by pointing out that he is still in favour of free elections. At least that was still a given in his time, even though the decision about the loss of Al Gore was considered controversial by some back then.
A low bar, a low bar indeed. But here we go, on this positive note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Nq9SpGzic
Dick Cheney and George Bush the guy who said "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame m--, you can't get fooled again".
I thought was the lowest point for America. But Trump made George Bush seem like a rocket scientist, and yearn for the good ol days.
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Mikie Sherril won as goober of NJ, too.
EDIT: Obligatory: DingDong the Dick IS DEAD
An old San Francisco Bay Area emmigrant, I hadn't heard about Pelosi. That's such good news.
I really expected someone would have to pry her office titles from her cold dead hands the way we had to with Feinstein.
All im seeing is speculation on pelosis retirement, and apperantly shes set to talke about it. Did it already happen?
It's speculated that she'll announce it very soon now that prop 50 has passed.
is pelosi actually retiring? i thought she said a couple days ago in some interview that she's considering running for reelection!
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