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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 139 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

In the long run, using mice to test human medicines will result in selection pressure for humans whose physiology more and more closely resembles mice.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

they use a lot of other things… including living human cancer cells in a petri dish

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe the vast majority of cultivated human cells are cancerous cells anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Lacks

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

when researching cancer drugs, yeah

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Maybe the real cancer is the friends we made along the way

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

well no, they kill cancer in petri dishes

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

It was a joke about selection pressure.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The reality is that even if there was a magic bullet for cancer, all cancer, it would only extend lives a few years.

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[–] halvar@lemy.lol 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i love this idea let's become mice

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago

they are widely known to be the smartest creatures on earth, followed by dolphins, and then us

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

No, we will become monke

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mice live 9 months in the wild, and have a resting heart rate of 500-700 bpm. That's a lot of cardio.

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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

(not mice), but Fancy Rats are extremely susceptible to tumors. It sucks. More rats I've owned have died of either cancer or respiratory illnesses than old age.

Bonus shot of my boy Finn:

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[–] happysplinter@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago
[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You say that but he always wears a leather jacket and carries a flickknife with him when he goes outside!!

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

I can fix him

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

so does my mom.

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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

The whole concept of “curing cancer” is such a trope. Cancer is a condition, and it annoys the fuck out of me that people treat it as one disease like measles or the flu.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Just like with antibiotics. When Penicilin was originally tested, they happened to test it on just the right animals. One kind of standard lab animals would have just died from that stuff.

[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Or it was too cheap to duplicate so there was no profit in it…

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Cheap to duplicate is great for them. That means larger profit margins.

[–] aarch0x40@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s more profit in causing and treating cancer than curing it. Can’t weaken those revenue streams just so some poor people can go on living. If they were worth saving then they wouldn’t have been born better.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Dead people make short term profit. Alive people make long term profit.

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[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, there are like dozens of different types of cancers, so we probably have missed some of them.

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or it worked too well on mice and stopped regular cells from dividing.

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We know a bunch of ways to kill cancer cells. Unfortunately, we usually want to avoid killing the non-cancerous ones, which is considerably harder to do.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

reminds me of trump's suggestion of using bleach to treat people with covid

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 10 points 1 day ago

We warned the stupids off doing that way too quick if you ask me.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Now now, you can't be picky! And really with the outcome being the same, there's no reason to bicker.

[–] aarch0x40@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

There are preventative measures but they’re all based on the rich not poisoning everyone for profit.

[–] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The crazy thing is we actually do have things that work in humans but not in mice. Mice are omnivores and are very different in terms of optimal energy state. They tend to run in glucose more easily than on fat and their whole biology is built to be small and fast, with short life spans.

Checking how DNA repair works in an animal which lives for maybe 2 years is great for understanding DNA repair in short lived organisms, but we have tk repair damage for 50 times as long. It is just so much more complex and requires such different tools when you switch from maybe 2 years to maybe 80 years, it really isn't sane to assume it will all carry over.

Now for an accute toxin, say tobacco, sure, some things work just fine. There is not a huge difference between humans and mice when subjected to cyanide or arsenic. Being crushed by a falling piano is going to kill both of us. But a chronic poison? That will take decades to kill? That is very different. We can shed cells in a different way to how they can. We have more mass to store things. We have more energy storage. We have bigger kidneys with more opportunities for filtering. We are different.

When we enter ketosis we have some fairly significant cancer responses. When we maintain fasting for 5+ days we have a fairly large bump in autophagy, a state where the body kills off and recycles damaged cells. This state can cause some types of cancer to be more obvious to our immune systems and allow the tumor to be attacked. In some cases otherwise inoperable tumors can be removed after shrinking them through fasting. This does not replicate in mice. So yes, some treatments (not cures because that doesn't really apply) do work in humans and not in mice.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Also who is out there making sure all of these incredible discoveries are accessible to mice more broadly, outside the labs?

This IS happening, right?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Otoh, mice have never been healthier.

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