Most of the best episodes are about debates, social issues, and general talking.
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MORE SPACE COURTROOMS, LESS SPACE LASERS
Star Trek, you are creating new episode,you must choose now. Will you pick :
- Cerebral talks about ethics and humanity and its potencial
- Or Schlocky sci fi BS that you execute poorly
absailing with harnesses happens
EPISODE ABOUT USING MASS DRIVERS TO SHOOT ASTEROIDS AT PLANETS WHEN
Okay chill out Cartagia
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FUCK THAT LET'S CRASH TWO BROWN DWARFS INTO EACH OTHER AND SEE IF IT MAKES NEW COLORS
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Say it louder!
It turns out the photon torpedoes' onboard targeting systems are sentient, now what do we do?
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The Measure of a Man. A solid 50 minutes of mostly talking at desks. 💯
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Modern woke trek. No I'm not old it just came out...30 you say
edit: @ummthatguy wasn't being pedantic, I dylexia'd the maths and edited from 20 to 30 about the same time they commented.
Ok but what about MY feelings? As I have grown older I have atrophied into more conservative views in a way I don't want to admit may be toxic and Star Trek is forcing me to grapple with that. I don't think that is fair, I just wanted some light scifi entertainment fluff with no substance to it.
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As I have grown older I have atrophied into more conservative views in a way I don’t want to admit may be toxic
less that, more "my views have not changed though the overton window has and i don't want to admit i've been living with and perpetuating toxic values"
The 1969 episode "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" is a good example.
And, like, every episode with Uhura, Sulu, or even Chekov in it.
Pfft, they were clearly not the same; the first was white and black and the other was black and white!
They could both run pretty good, though.
"I'll protect you, fair maiden!"
"Sorry, neither."
"Don't worry, you're in the Good Place." - Rick Berman
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Easier to flip an actual demon than to rehabilitate Ricky B.
Actually the entire Star Trek universe is in the Bad Place. My evidence is Trevor is pretending to be one of the Defiant bridge crew:
Don't you besmirch ben's ultimate treat yo'self like that.
Despite all the hate he faces from Lemmy Trekkies, Berman's era generated the best Star Trek to date.
I don't think anybody claims that he was bad at his job, but instead that he was a sexist predatory monster. (Or at least, if they say he was bad at his job, it was because he was a sexist predatory monster and mistreated actresses because of it.)
In spite of him. He was single-handedly responsible for a tremendous amount of *-washing and what progressiveness got included was done behind his back.
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The real question is why they stopped and what the fuck SNW Season 3 is supposed to be
They stopped because Star Trek is a tent pole series for Paramount online or whatever they are calling their streaming service now.
They need to broaden the appeal and old trek doesn't speak to the lowest common denominator.
The lowest common denominator fuck up a lot of stuff.
There have been entertainment execs who championed the notion that the common viewer is smarter than they're given credit for, and that deep down they want to be challenged. (I don't have the sources in front of me, but think of Norman Lear and Jim Brooks, and so on.)
The LCD is certainly a concern, but I really think today's entertainment industry has become too spineless, too cynical, and too dismissive of their customers' intelligence.
It's like those guys who say one piece isn't political. Are we even reading the same thing? I guess we all interact with media differently
Whenever someone says One Piece is political, I have to wonder what makes them say that.
Like. .. There are way too many reasons to pick from, I don't know which one you're thinking of.
Which one of you mf's is ashamed to call themselves a Social Justice Warrior?
You mean the series, which showed an interracial kiss for the first time on tv? Not to mention TNG. Where a woman was the head of security. And the episode of the first series, where they had a society ruled by women.
I love how this meme glazes over the incredibly shit writing of NuTrek, or how the social presented in NuTrek are incredibly safe topics already popular on social media, instead of the some of the very controversial things that Trek has done in the past.
The most controversial thing NuTrek does is being hated by anyone who actually understands Trek, and attracting a lot of tourists.
I'm perfectly happy to ignore everything between Enterprise and SNW, except for Lower Decks. (Is there an official TLA for that?)
LD or LDS.
Old Trek covered social justice issues by putting people who were being marginalized in our society in powerful roles, then having them do their fucking jobs, and do them well.
New Trek covers social justice issues by having bridge crew members sitting around crying about childhood issues from 20 years ago while the universe is actively being destroyed, and instead of being kicked off of the bridge so they can get their shit together, the rest of the bridge crew sits around and comforts them while some no-name ensign silently saves the day in the background. Or some member of the bridge crew, completely unfocused and not paying attention to the problem at all, accidents their way into saving humanity.
These are not the same.
Most of that rant is about Discovery. I hate Discovery. SNW is much better when it comes to this.
Hey, it's a The Good Place meme in the wild!
When did it become so dog shit at tackling social issues?
- 2009 is the answer. Its been dog shit ever since.
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I started watching Discovery and Strange New Worlds recently. Honestly while it seems they are at least not so blatantly sexist as they used to be, in other ways, it seems like the newer shows are less political than the old ones. It's almost like a hybrid between classic Star Trek, and the Star-Wars-in-Star-Trek-Clothing movies that JJ Abrams made.
I like em though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, they're very watered down by liberal ideology. It's supposed to be gay space communism
Except that last season of SNW and its shudders eugenics. No idea what the fuck was up with that
Lucille Ball helped get Star Trek going ... it was ALWAYS meant to be forward thinking.
I feel like it is a bit more nuanced. Yes TOS was forward leaning on race issues. But it was conservative in other areas such as pro-Vietnam War (as seen in the conclusion of "Private Little War") and anti-hippie (as seen in "Way to Eden"). Today's Trek is much more liberal overall when you look at it taken as a whole IMHO.
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