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“Unfortunately, in attempting to do so, we erroneously deleted the data directory of the primary on db-01.”

Wow, mistake on top of mistake on top of mistake it's impressive they could recover without data loss.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 27 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

One cool thing is that I had no idea that this happened until I just read it on their blog even though me, my friends and family use Matrix extensively.

But all my friends who are on Matrix host their own servers because it's quite easy, and my family uses my own server, only my brother uses a matrix.org account, but he doesn't write much.

This is decentralization working as it's supposed too, when enough participants are federated and not centralized.

On Lemmy the lemmy.world and the piefed.social instances are similar to matrix.org and I think all of them, including mastodon.social should close new registrations. I mean the flagship instances have their place in the beginning, but once they become so big they should be locked. The teams behind them can open another instance if they want to keep growing, but they should be run on a separate infrastructure to prevent bringing them down at the same time.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

I always heard that rolling out an initial Matrix instance isn't terrible, especially with ansible and/or docker, but I also have heard that a lot of updates have breaking changes and that updating your server is less simple.

As someone who runs your own Matrix server, would you agree with this sentiment or disagree and why? I have considered rolling out my own many times but get discouraged by those who say keeping it updated is kind of a nightmare. For example, a private tracker I am a member of used to have a Matrix server and an IRC server, but they eventually dumped the Matrix server entirely to reduce complexity as well as the fact that fewer people used it.

[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I run my own matrix server, too. I've never had any issues with updates. Honestly, I just pull the new docker image without thinking twice about it. It is risky, of course, but I have daily automated backups, so I'm not too concerned. Personally, I felt like setting up a matrix server for the first time was the biggest pain in the butt. It's extremely convoluted with very poorly written documentation that is often outdated or incomplete. After I got through that, it was smooth-sailing from there. Setting up mautrix bridges one you got Synapse to work is actually really easy, though.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even really plan to use any bridges, as I understand it those are for if you want to pass messages from other services through your matrix server. I would rather keep those separate personally, even though I understand certain benefits, including having all your messaging in one application instead of numerous.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 7 hours ago

When a bridge works like the discord and the Signal and WhatsApp ones it's amazing not to need to log in to those services anymore just to see if someone wrote something to you.

Sadly most of the bridges are either broken like the Facebook one or straight out don't work like she KakaoTalk and WeeChat ones because the services remove capabilities which before made it possible in a hacky way.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I run it in docker and an update has never caused issues. Been about 3 years.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Which docker container do you use, if you don't mind me asking. Also, how complicated would you rate the setup? I have a degree in network admin and run multiple Linux servers and docker containers with manually created docker network bridges so they can freely communicate with one another, to give an idea of my knowledge base. Honestly the only thing I haven't done before yet that makes me nervous is setting up a reverse proxy to expose the endpoint to the internet and connect it to my owned domain name.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I run it on Ubuntu and installed it with apt about 7 years ago and had zero problems, it updates itself when I run apt upgrade, it turns itself off for a couple of seconds and then it's back up.

I didn't even know they had it set up as an apt repository for Ubuntu. Very interesting.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 13 points 8 hours ago

What a nightmare. Everything gets much harder at their scale...