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Updated statement came after KIVI-TV sent FBI photo reportedly showing 14-year-old U.S. citizen in zip ties

It was, yes, an immigration raid

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[–] einlander@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (1 children)

~~That didn't happen.~~
And if it did, it wasn't that bad. <- we are here
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm pretty sure you can pick a random day and we'll have been up and down that damn list like an elevator.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

According to the GOP, they're kids until they're 35, so 14 is still very young.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

This is where you are somewhat incorrect.

14 year boys are still kids, yes. Boys will be boys and all that

However, according to the gang of paedos, 14 year old girls are definitely fully adult, and should be married by now. In fact, they are already old maids, yuck.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, you see, this is because girls mature earlier. According to science, it is perfectly normal for girls and very young women to be married and bare children. In fact, it's in the best interests of the species! However, only our leaders can be entrusted with such responsibility. No doubt us commoners would abuse this for personal gain.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

it is perfectly normal for girls and very young women to be married and bare children

Yes. Bare children. Just the way the GOP likes them.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

Don't kid yourself, a lot of them like the boys that age, too.

[–] teft@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but Dipshit Vance said the other day how all those racist young republicans were kids. 35 year old kids.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I mean women do mentally mature faster than men, but that just seems like an argument to lower the min age to run for presidency for women.

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 6 points 1 week ago

Minority kids and kids they want to rape are adults at seven, their kids are adults at...45? Maybe?

[–] tatann@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kids are supposed to be young, not 20-30 something morons spewing nazi shit in group text chats

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

in group text chats

Or multiplayer lobbies. :(

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 27 points 1 week ago

Earlier Wednesday, Canyon County Sheriff Kieran Donahue and Caldwell Police Chief Rex Ingram said the FBI, not ICE, led the raid. In a joint statement, they called the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s statement that gave ICE credit for the raid “completely false and a serious misrepresentation of the facts.”

So now they're arguing about who gets credit for abusing and violating the civil rights of children.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe this is like that Lionel Hutz line: No, money down!

Maybe the FBI forget the comma too: No, young kids were.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There's more to blame than ICE. Boycott the American lifestyle

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I did. I was born in Chicago. I fucked off to Europe a couple years ago, to the Netherlands.

In many ways superior to the US, no doubt.

But if I'm being honest? Same-ish problems. Perhaps, a smaller scale. I've been fortunate to see much of the world, at least far more than the average natural-born US citizen. I speak 4 languages. 2 of them fluently. The same societal sicknesses in America pervade the globe.

Certainly, the US is a dumpster-fire, but it's not the only trash receptacle that's ablaze at the moment, and it definitely didn't start there, historically.

[–] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I absolutely agree with you.

I'm European and think Berlusconi was Trump way before Trump. Sarkozy was a terrible telling of France leaning into the far-right as a new normal, and people are now still cheering him and paying him tribute as he heads to prison for corruption by the way. What?? Bolsonaro in Brazil, the same. And the list goes on.

This all to say, you're correct. This is everywhere. And I do believe it is starting to coalesce into the same global movement and in my opinion backed and financed by the very same people worldwide as a destabilisation of democracies to establish the new feudal system that is already in play, but not in total control.

But you do have to admit the U.S. has some unique problems. Like Mass shootings and serial killers. In both of these, the U.S. has more occurrences than all the other countries on the respective lists combined. WTF?

And if you're in the Netherlands, the existence of a functioning public health care system is something that makes a huge difference. Including the reduction of crime.

This is why I'm gonna end on a quote from the great George Carlin...

"When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat."

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

more occurrences than all the other countries on the respective lists combined. WTF?

Just in the interest of clarity, depending on the data and how the studies are done etc...

The U.S tends to have more occurrences of almost everything compared to a lot of European neighbors because it's so HUGE both in population and sheer landmass.

Even adjusted, some of our stats are still alarmingly high, but I wanted to make sure this aspect was considered.

[–] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, I do know that. And I apologise if I inadvertently implied something else in the process.

In the case of these two, the serial killers one, it was the number of serial killers reported to date on record. It wasn't percentage per capita. It was all the other countries with reported serial killers on record (because not all countries even had a single number on record). When all the other ranked countries' occurrences were summed, it still came quite short in comparison to the American number alone. I saw this on a broadcast news report about a decade ago, where they went on about what reasons could be the catalyst for such (there were too many referenced and suggested to briefly resume here now), this to say that my memory could be faltering too, but this may be something that can be found online somewhere if one goes looking for it.

In the case of mass shootings, there's too many statistics being thrown around about this all the time now for me to pinpoint which one it was. But personally knowing people from countries with a higher violent crime rate than the U.S. it is still not a practice known to any of them to have "school shooting drills" for students. That's a particularly unique U.S. occurrence.

I was merely talking about these two specific issues. I wasn't talking about anything else. And again, I apologise if the way I wrote these suggested otherwise.

And what you stated should be highlighted about every statistic everywhere all the time.

And I want to reiterate again that I agree with the original comment we're branching off. Too much focus is being placed around the U.S. in a silly global "schadenfreude", that I find quite rude to the many people in the U.S. who don't deserve any of it. Most of what is happening there is happening everywhere and we ought to be vigilant and helpful.

And if you are in the U.S. and particularly in one of the states being arrassed and invaded, please be safe, and know that most of the idiots you see around the web mocking this situation, are actually also rooting for you to turn the tide.

I wish you nothing but the best, and for you and your loved ones to be safe.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Hey, I'm sorry it took me a while to get to this, but I really appreciate the comment! And no, I don't think you were implying anything, I was just trying to contribute something helpful. :)

Your sincerity and compassion is a light in these dark days, and reading your words from across the world really lifted my spirits.

I'm not currently in a state that's being invaded or occupied right now, but it's still scary, and we're constantly bracing for the next insane, stupid thing that's going to happen next. It does hurt when it seems like others across the world (with their own petty wannabe-autocrats) are jeering for everything to collapse here, without thinking of all the people here they'd gladly share a beer with.

Like they've just written us off, even when millions are protesting and helping immigrants and even just struggling to get by as everything gets shittier.

Thank you for the really kind words and sincerity. I hope wherever you are, you and yours are safe and happy and healthy.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

But zip tying toddlers has always been a staple of American lifestyle!

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

And their definition of "young" will now be set to whatever age is younger than the youngest of kids who were zip-tied. Or maybe they'll just lie until they're stopped.