This was one of the fundamental experiences of whiplash that shot me straight out of the Christian community. Giant pile of child-fucking hypocrites.
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I'm European. My mother tried to get me into Christianity. When I was 7 or 8 I asked "If God created everything, then who created God?" I got no answer, ever since that moment, I didn't want to be religious. My mother tried until I was 14. It failed.
Also, I find american Christians weird. They twist and contort Christianity into something to suit their ideological needs, racism, homophobia, capitalism, nationalism, unilateralism, etc.
I'm an atheist, but I would probably guess that those type of Christians aren't real Christians at all. It seems to be common in America for people to associate "traditional family values" with Christianity. Which very basically translates to racism and homophobia. So they hide behind Christianity like they're holyier then thou. These people aren't Christians, their bigots with disassociative disorders. You were raised by bigots.
I only realised this after I was well past my "Angry Atheist" phase: There are good verses in the Bible and there are also bad verses. Most of the Christians cherry pick. How they cherry pick depends on who they are. In my opinion, there aren't any real or fake christians. There's only good christians and bad christians.
Man, I think I was an atheist for years before I actually knew it. I disagreed with several things without even noticing for a long time. I'd skip going to church, (hell I would show up sometimes for the beginning and leave just so people would know they saw me that day). I hated LGBT people for a good chunk of it. That kinda stopped after I met some.
Then when someone close to me came out as trans, I didn't even blink or feel weird about it. But the old beliefs still kinda hovered there for a while still.
That shit is hard to shake when it's indoctrinated as bad as it was, mostly because of the fact that the fear of hell is reeeeal. It took a movie bringing up the fact that something that I believed was original to the Bible has been around well before it got put into the Bible. That finally shattered holding onto it, and everything else has been catching up ever since.
I'm finally becoming someone I'm not ashamed of.
That started 9 years ago. I still have a group of friends to get back to that tolerate me back then somehow and I need to reintroduce the new me.
Then when someone close to me came out as trans, I didn’t even blink or feel weird about it.
Calling bullshit on that, mate. Anything out of the ordinary, you are going to be curious about. People blink and feel weird when someone swaps playstation for xbox. If you had said that you didnt hate them just because, that would fine. But this "I totally didnt blink at something Im not used to" is a cheap virtue signal.
I dont care who you are, or what the issue is. If some suddenly isnt who you thought they were in some way, youre going to blink. Youre going to have questions. Wanting to understand things isnt bad. And honestly utterly fucking sick of every single person on the internet pretending that they arent the same human being that the rest of us are. If nothing else, youd at the very least be worried about them because of all the stories you hear about shitty parents disowning their kids for being LGBT. But not you, you didnt even blink...
And honestly utterly fucking sick of every single person on the internet pretending that they arent the same human being that the rest of us are
I don't even know what this part means.
As for the rest of it, maybe I'm not using the word "blink" the same way. Your way is probably more correct. I was using a more substantial version than "blink" seems to mean, but maybe that's just a regional or friend/family group difference.
But for reference, when I hear it used, it's more in a sense of being shocked to the point of just kinda a brief mental shutdown, during which one would just blink while they process.
That's just how I've heard it used, but on its face it does sound like it should be a much more minor reaction.
In which case, yes, I did blink. But if I had heard it a couple years before that, I would have had a much bigger reaction. Plus the fact that it was becoming more obvious shortly before they came out.
Either way my point was that at that point in my life I was coming out of religion enough that my reaction was more immediately supportive of my sibling rather than reacting negatively toward them in favor of the religious rules I had before.
I dont care, dude. You want the digital applause for being "one of the good ones", you go, girl.
Reminds me of being a pastor's son at ~5 and asking the Sunday School teacher if Satan could be saved, since God wants everyone saved. I was sincere--it troubled me that there was a creature that was without hope. Now I understand I should be happy that fucker is burning eternally. He should've never messed with God! That's just normal adult stuff! You live and learn!
Buddhism has a more Christian example of Christ-like behavior concerning a "living being Satan". That is to say, if "living being Jesus" was real, he would be a Bodhisattva, perhaps akin to Kṣitigarbha.
In the story, Bodhisattva Kṣitigarbha vowed:
“Until the hells are empty, I will not become a Buddha.
Only when all sentient beings are saved will I attain enlightenment.”
It is a vow to never abandon any being regardless of their state.
I like that idea. Boundless love and compassion doesn't stop at the bounds of some hell. It is boundless. It has boundless time, so it will spend an eternity reaching out to even cyclic hells.
Jesus was a manual laborer who became homeless to travel and preach his message. He made a point to spend time with lepers and the dregs of society, tax collectors being the worse of them all, because they served the occupying army.
His message was for everyone to love each other. It wasn’t open to interpretation. He made no exceptions. The less fortunate and oppressed were even more deserving of love and support from individuals and from the community.
