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On Sept. 11, Michigan representatives proposed an internet content ban bill unlike any of the others we've seen: This particularly far-reaching legislation would ban not only many types of online content, but also the ability to legally use any VPN.

The bill, called the Anticorruption of Public Morals Act and advanced by six Republican representatives, would ban a wide variety of adult content online, ranging from ASMR and adult manga to AI content and any depiction of transgender people. It also seeks to ban all use of VPNs, foreign or US-produced.

Main issue I have with this article, and a lot of articles on this topic, is it doesn't address the issue of youth access to porn. I think any semi-intelligent person knows this is a parenting issue, but unfortunately that cat's out of the bag, thanks to the right. "Proliferation of porn" is the '90s crime scare (that never really died) all over again. If a politician or industry expert is speaking against bills like this, their talking points have to include:

  • Privacy-respecting alternatives that promise parents that their precious babies won't be able to access that horrible dangerous porn! (I don't argue that porn can't be dangerous, but this is yet another disingenuous right-wing culture (holy) war)
  • Addressing that vagueness in the bill sets up the government as morality police (it's right there in the title of the bill, FFS), and NOBODY in a "free" country should ever want that.
  • Stop saying it can be bypassed with technology. The VPN ban in this bill is a reaction to talking points like that.
  • Recognize and call out that this has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with a religious minority imposing its will on the rest of the country (plenty of recent examples to pull from here).

Unfortunately this is becoming enough of "A Thing" that the left is going to have to, once again, be seen doing "something" about it. So they have to thread a needle of "protecting kids," while respecting the privacy of their parents who want their kids protected and want to look at porn, and protecting businesses that require secure communications.

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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just masturbated to these representatives. Legally that makes them pornography, and they are also required to be banned under this bill's provisions.

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

but your proudest

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Banning VPNs" has some real " I declare bankruptcy!" vibes.

Why not also ban cash? That can be used to evade detection as well and is notoriously used by criminals.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they kinda did in australia. If you want to withdraw more than $10K you need proof of what you're going to pay with it.

In Canada it is the same. And in Quebec carrying more than $3K Canadian is considered proof that you are up to no good and will get you arrested.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

NO VPN!

And the corporate world comes to a screeching halt.

These fuckwads don't even understand anything about what they're trying to legislate.

When shit starts being monitored, I want to see the legislators' traffic public first.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the corporate world comes to a screeching halt.

In theory, businesses would be required to register their VPNs and... idk, this would limit access to them somehow?

Much like with the Assault Weapons Ban and the assorted online porn bans and strip club bans and dry counties and SEC rules on insider trading, etc, etc, etc a lot of this boils down to "how hard do you want to work in order to enforce this?"

And the short answer is "we only want an excuse to arrest people arbitrarily". So a VPN can quickly because a "everyone with an Internet connection is a criminal suspect". And then you just harass the people you want to harass under cover of "we thought you had kiddie porn" as an excuse

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

I once worked for a banking transaction company (or something like that, I did their network and telecom support, none of the actual business) and they had offices in Russia. I was told that since VPNs are more restricted there, but required for the business, they had to have a special application with the government to be allowed to have the site to site VPN work.

I imagine they'd try to do the same, as well as grant them another way to be in the pocket of or have some control over businesses. If the government has to approve your necessary security software, you'll want to stay on their good side.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

When shit starts being monitored, I want to see the legislators' traffic public first.

Oh my sweet summer child. Of course these laws won't apply to them.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And if they do, they will make up shit to use the dirt you dug up against them against you.

Kind of like how when a cop shoots a black guy they look for whatever parking ticket they got 10 years prior as proof he is a cracking smoking cap busting gangsta who was itching for a bullet. Never being slightly concerned for the cop's violent history or misconduct in various police forces.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

"Corruption of public morals" is such a shameless name to put on a bill that simply tries to enforce your own morals.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Corporate media's job is to manufacture consent. Please do not accept their spin uncritically.

This has nothing to do with kids or porn, those are always easy bells for censors to ring. It's about control and tracking. They want to be able to tie anonymous online activity to your real identity.

Politically, we really need to stop accepting their framing that they're trying to protect kids. These bills are only about collecting data.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Considering how many people need to use VPNs to telecommute, this seems like it would be a non-starter. But you can't discount the sheer stupidity and hubris of Republicans these days.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

"If you removed all the porn from the internet you would be left with one website, titled "Bring Back the Porn""

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Banning VPNs would be an unmitigated disaster and anyone who suggests that it's a good idea has absolutely no idea what they're talking about and should never be allowed to make tech policy again because they are a massive idiot.

Businesses, institutions, and even the government itself all require the use of VPNs to remain secure. VPNs are vital to functioning IT infrastructure everywhere.

Additionally, such a move wouldn't even stop people from accessing porn (which isn't even what VPNs are for), all it would really do is break IT security everywhere.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah but people are really stupid and the economy is going to implode any day now anyways. It has nothing to do with porn and everything to do with criminalizing privacy and making mass surveillance more easy. They do not care how it affects people, they are rich and completely detached from reality. They will go live on Epstein Island or move to Ireland or something when America explodes. They rather be rich and connected then do anything that would actually help anyone, and Americans for the past 30 years have voted consistently for mass surveillance, destroying the constitution and fiat economics. This is what your average American wants by their voting habbits. People are just too stupid and brainwashed by this point.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

This is a test balloon. One state is needed to overcome all the technical hurdles like clearing VPNs for work. Once that is done it will be roled out everywhere.

Without ruling out VPNs, all the other internet laws don't make sense. So this step is necessary and almost inevitable.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Bro can we not?

I thought I got lucky to be born into a family that was able to leave China, and I could browse the internet freely in the US. What the fuck y'all? Just let me have my unlimited access to entertainment in peace mmkay?

So... fucking... cooked...

Blatent First Amendment violation.

I mean what even is gonna be the difference between fucking CCP and this BS.

(Canadaaa plssss lemmme innn? 🥺👉👈❓️
Australia? 👀)

[–] Newsteinleo@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

The news on this has been underplaying how bad this bill is. It requires ISPs to inspect traffic to ensure its no porn, meaning they would have to be able to decrypt the traffic. This makes a single point were hackers can access credit card data, personal information, and anything else you don't want to share with the world. This assumes the ISPs are willing to front the compute cost of decrypting then re-encrypting and not just banning encrypted traffic because its the easy and cheap way.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't forget to ban renting servers, vps and cloud services by individuals.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

surely Michigan has no one who works over the internet

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

The rule of headlines is that if it asks a question in the title, the answer is assumed to be no.

No, it won't.

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