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Top Air Force General Quits Following Hegseth's Partisan Quantico Speech (dailyboulder.com)
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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/6319064

And he was appointed by trump first term

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 138 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

I’m simultaneously baffled and infuriated by all of the people who are “resigning in protest”.

Like, holy fuck, why are you making it easy for them? Dig your heels in. Nickel-and-dime the bureaucracy. Lean into the minutiae. Get the noncoms to maliciously comply on as many points as possible. Intentionally be inefficient. Throw sand in the gears, and sugar in the gas tank. Drop a bolt somewhere, and “forget” to spot it on FOD walkdown. Over torque. Under torque. Cross thread with ugga dugga. Misalign. There are a SHITLOAD of places where intentional inefficiency can be employed in a defensible fashion. Misinterpret orders. Don’t correct typos and errors, and just do whatever as-written, with minimum effort lip-service. Make it hard for them to take over. Genuinely, why are these approaches not being used more aggressively? I’m completely fucking flummoxed.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly, dishonorable discharge technically allows for a death sentence. If Trump orders a general to shoot American civilians and he refuses, that's treason, so can be death sentence'd. I'd want to avoid the situation too.

Now if that ACTUALLY happened, at least which ever general with balls gets unalived is going to be a martyr and hopefully a symbol for the resistance. So it takes one guy to take that bullet and the country may never be the same. So I hope someone will do that instead of quitting.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

unalived

Quit it. You're not some vapid influencerati on YouTube

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz -3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I forgot "vapid influencerati" even use that term, I first heard it on reddit years ago when someone thought it was funny. I swear there was more funny/interesting context to the post that I don't remember anymore. It was before mass censorship of "bad words" was so prolific. People were still using "kill", "fuck", "shit" etc.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

You only need to follow lawful orders. Ordering the murder of civilians is not lawful. Because the act of murdering civilians is illegal.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We're talking Trumpistan, not the United States of America tho.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Well in this made up world they can just shoot trump too right? Why are we all acting like the law is already over?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, look around? Not saying people are not at risk of the law, but the rule of law is dead in the us.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

And yet judges keep ruling and the administration backs down. The concentration camp in Florida, closed. I'm not saying they aren't flouting it left and right, but it is still there and people are recording what they are doing for when they get thrown out.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 4 weeks ago

You still have ice out masked in force, still have camps, still have tarriffed the world, still have open bribery, and still have chilling lawsuits against media. All of which was ruled not cool by judges at some point, and either just done anyway or overruled at the supreme court.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

The concentration camp in Florida, closed.

Uhhh yeah you might want to re-check the most up to date news on that one.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

It only goes one way, bud. Don't ever expect it to go both ways with these people.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

TheSupreme Court will bow to crybaby Shitler

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

The general would face a court martial or whatever that process is that could lead to a death sentence, and if that process results in a death sentence for refusing to shoot American citizens then absolutely nothing matters.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Then the general should defend the constitution more directly and aggressively.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago

That's the the thing, they won't be "american citizens" they will be radical ANTIFA terrorists, so it will be okay to shoot them

[–] Kanger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

The general would face a court martial or whatever that process is that could lead to a death sentence

Nope and nope.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

I think the worst one was the person who was removed because they wouldn't prosecute Comey... There were only 5 days left in statute of limitations. He should have just played along but fucked everything up so that way by the time they realized there would be no time left.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You know it's infinitely more likely that those that stick around are going to just take part in atrocities and not actually resist them right? Whatever you think about the law abiding people who try to change the system from within they almost never actually do it they just prolong the system and legitimize the system.

[–] Kanger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You know it’s infinitely more likely that those that stick around are going to just take part in atrocities and not actually resist them right?

No, we certainly do not "know" that. People with ethics who would consider resigning are not going to take part in atrocities. The people who would take part in atrocities would be the gung ho Treason Trump supporters. We want as few of them as possible replacing normal people.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately we do know that, history is very clear.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 101 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is s bummer because we need people who will refuse to do what Trump is asking the military to do and resist him.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 41 points 4 weeks ago

Yup. Make them make you leave. Hell, make them drag you out of your office, make them tell your soldiers to disregard your orders, make them work like HELL for it all if you think what's happening is disgusting, because I guarantee they're going to fish for someone who's OK with dropping nukes on Tehran, who's fine with the military's guns being turned on the public.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Coward.

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 26 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

A real general would've fragged the Nazis

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 weeks ago

Throw a punch. Be obstinate and get fired. Anything.

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Top Air Force General Gets Replaced By Trump Loyalist After Resigning Following Hegseth's Partisan Quantico Speech

fixed that for you.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If you stay in a position where you support fascist regime that makes you a fascist. If you stay on "to prevent things from getting even worse" that will not fly at your eventual court hearing. Also, if they replace all the competent people with sycophantic morons, eventually the whole thing will collapse.

[–] Kanger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That is not the way it works at all.

If you stay in a position where you support fascist regime that makes you a fascist.

Being in the military doesn't make you a "supporter of a fascist regime". It puts you in a position to stop fascism some day. The Romanian dictator was executed in 1989 by his own military.

If you stay on “to prevent things from getting even worse” that will not fly at your eventual court hearing.

Those people aren't going to have an "eventual court hearing". They are going to have a court hearing for every officer in the US military? Don't be ridiculous.

Also, if they replace all the competent people with sycophantic morons, eventually the whole thing will collapse.

This is so naive. The Bolsheviks in Russia lasted from 1917 to 1991. China's dictatorship started in 1949 and is still going strong. More likely than not a dictatorship will last for the rest of your lifetime.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

No. If you stay and refuse to follow unlawful and unconstitutional orders, that does not make you a fascist and is a far more effective strategy than allowing your power to be usurped by actual fascists.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

An officer commands a unit. That officer can order troops to deploy to protect citizens.

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

Part of the strategy.

Those against or new world order will quit.

We can then replace them with the cherries WE pick now.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, these people should not be quitting, they should be doing least effective job to further this fascist takeover. If you quit, a toady sycophant is going to get your job. If you act enthusiastic, and find "reasons" to slow the roll or fuck it up, you can do a lot more damage to the regime for a lot longer

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

I've had spoiled petulant toddler bosses myself and I've done the same thing.

You don't have to put up with some idiot fool who got that position through nepotism or stupidity or both telling you, a trained experienced professional, how to do your job.

Peace the fuck out.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

These people who are leaving or getting forced out need to get together and talk about solutions.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Good thing they conveniently all gathered in one place

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It should be plural

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 weeks ago

They need to be acting and coordinating en masse. A principled retirement or order refusal every once in a while won't meaningfully impact fascism.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And now we get to the point of the meeting.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

The ones who stay on make themselves accomplices.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago

I don't blame him. No one wants to deal with this shit. We all (USA Citizens) have a responsibility to do something. But I don't blame him for getting out now.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 weeks ago

Damn it stay and endure.. somone needs to step up in 3 years.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

This is how China will win the war for Taiwan. Incompetent but loyal people get promoted and will end up doing a shit job.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I have a feeling there is more to the story that influenced this resignation.