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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 81 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

It's about time all those math types learned to relax a bit. These numbers in these spreadsheets don't need to be exact all the time. It's really more about the overall flavor of the spreadsheet than how "right" any individual field is. Error bars are there for a reason people!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 48 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] rainwall@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Microsoft literally calls the feature "vibe working." Youre not far off the actual name.

They aren't even pretending to care anymore.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like a good way to AI-wash any accounting fraud. Now you can just blame it on Microsoft.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 weeks ago
[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's really more about the overall flavor of the spreadsheet than how "right" any individual field is.

Just like the Xerox copier/scanners that helpfully kept scanned images small by reusing parts of the image elsewhere. Like, all these 6s on your scanned invoices can totally be replaced with 8s. There's just a tiny degradation in the overall image, it shouldn't be a problem!

Xerox should have just called it AI compression and people would have been throwing money at them.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

Especially on blueprints, these small file sizes are important. Doesn't matter if you replace these load bearing numbers with different ones, as long as the file is small

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

“Please calculate the totals to reflect a favourable result”

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like what accountants do already

[–] eRac@lemmings.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Accountants tally the numbers and hand you the totals. Twisting them is unethical and can lead to them losing their licenses.

Analysts manipulate the numbers to push a message. No ethics allowed.

Signed, an analyst raised by an accountant. Interacting with other analysts is infuriating.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's all about whether your accounts give a vibe of truthiness. Auditors need to chill.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 51 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Trillions of dollars to develop a calculator that's wrong sometimes.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 47 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Excel is the fucking backbone of Microsoft Office. It's solid and backwards compatible for a couple of decades. Excel is the one reason business sticks with Office. It never fails, everyone knows it, nothing can replace it. You cannot trust any other spreadsheet to perfectly translate if you move away from Excel. The world runs on Excel.

I never imagined Microsoft would fuck with Excel. Ever. There's a fairy tale about killing the golden goose, can't remember how it goes.

[–] PKscope@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

Just look what they're doing with their Xbox brand. One of the most well established brands in the most profitable entertainment sector and they are literally setting fire to it in every conceivable direction.

Microsoft must be taking business cues from GRRM... Kill all your main characters.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

yep. it's the one tool that is incredibly versatile in the workplace and for which I do not have a replacement

are there better tools? quite often. would those tools be able to be used by anybody opening the files you are sharing with them? nope. and keeping things in the same format means it's very easy to move data across files and link things up.

forms, trackers, calculations, data logging, all easy to reference/transfer to one another and I can expect anybody on my team to be able to work with files I send them without having to teach them how to use a different program

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

And you dare not risk your financial data when plotting a migration! Been there, done that, no one ever suggested moving from Excel to another product.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 39 points 4 weeks ago

Some computer scientists really went "we made a computer that is programmed in a different way and is sometimes correct" and these idiot corpos went "wow put it in everything"

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 weeks ago

0% of the time it works because I shut that shit off the first minute I saw it

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 4 weeks ago

$20 of the time

[–] youngalfred@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 weeks ago

Did he just spend the first half of the article explaining why 'copilot in excel' (not agent mode) wasn't designed for calculation tasks, them finishes with complaining that on benchmarks it fails 80% of the time?

The 54% accuracy of agent mode should be called out, not the low accuracy of the thing that wasn't designed for it.