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One of the men goes for her phone. The other grabs at her hands. Ozturk screams. Shock and fear ripple through her voice. Two masked women join them, tugging at her backpack, peeling the straps from her shoulders. “I’m going somewhere, I need to call someone,” she pleads. “We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says in response.

They surround her. Then, one by one, they pull their neck gaiters up to cover their faces. “You don’t look like police,” a voice off screen says. “Why are you hiding your faces?” The questions continue, but the figures don’t respond. Instead, they cuff Ozturk, cross the street, and put her in an unmarked SUV. She is gone.

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[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

For the record, and I know I'm not the first to say it, this woman committed NO crime. She didn't overstay a visa, she didn't protest illegally. She wrote something the administration didn't like.

For that, she was arrested by 8 masked officers in the middle of the street, in broad daylight. She was thrown in the back on an unmarked SUV. She's received no legal representation. No trial. Not even charges, because again, she committed no crime.

Americans, you realize you're watching the death of your rights and the rule of law, right? You have no illusions about the fact that you are defenseless? There is no longer any guardrail between you and an El Salvadoran prison camp. In something that reminds me very much of Stalin, an accusation is now a conviction.

[–] MountainVeil@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Defenseless is a good word, it seems like we're all just waiting for a savior to show up and rescue us. It doesn't help that a large amount of Americans see protest as pointless right now. What it feels like is the bystander effect on a national level.

The worst part is how many people either support or just brush it off.

[–] keen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

After all that trashing of Russians and why they do not fight against their government, the world gets to see that Americans are basically the same: so many fall for the dumbest possible propaganda and the rest is either afraid or apathetic.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago

Americans see protest as pointless right now.

Americans have seen a generation of peaceful protests that were crushed and villified. Anti-WTO, Anti-Iraq War, Occupy Wall Street, George Floyd, etc; all failed to achieve any of their stated goals.

And now that the fascists have taken control, peaceful protest is even less effective. For peaceful protest to succeed your opponent must have empathy, and fascists have none.

The last protest movement that accomplished something substantial was the civil rights movement. It was not peaceful, it was militant. I think we need a modern Black Panther Party.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Our inner child will refuse to believe this, but history has shown us that fascists cannot be stopped peacefully.

Concealed carry might be our only real defense in the future

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe but One gun vs. 10 isn't gonna do much. Needs to be combined with community organization. Get to know your neighbors and look out for and protect those likely to be targeted next. Organize your workplace and protect your coworkers from ICE. If you don't speak up there will be no one to speak up for you when it's your turn.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There are more than 10 of us.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

Yes. That was literally my point.

[–] green@feddit.nl 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Can we stop talking about "we should, we should"? Who is actually doing?

The time for talk was over November 4th, but it is beyond over now - arm yourself, period.

Where are the community resources for community building and fighting against ICE tactics - this is what the internet is for? Who is running the underground railroad? Why are every single one of us not educated on TOR and VPNs? Who are we primarying? What are the plans for removing propaganda from our real life communities?

There are no accessible answers to these questions - this is unacceptable, and we get this in order now. No one is coming to save us, we must do it ourselves. We have a 2 month window between now and when the most in-person activity will happen (summer).

P.S. Everyone screams at the gun owners and politicians about why they won't do anything. But why would they? They'll basically throw their lives away for nothing - especially when the people they claim to fight for are so fucking spineless.

If this woman can have her First Amendment RIGHT stripped and arrested in the street by plain clothes, and every single person in this country isn't rioting, guns and laws will not fix it.

P.S P.S If you are not from America and are in a relatively free country, one of the best things you can do is host the resources for fighting the Nazis. American companies, individuals, and organization are automatically compromised.

If are an American, create an onion service or host using an EU VPS and domain registar.

[–] mkhopper@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Makes me wonder if it would be a good idea to take down my "Hate has no home here" flag, that is prominently displayed in my yard.

We live in a very diverse neighborhood, and I'm happy to have this flag up. But I don't need any billy-jackoffs coming around causing a fuss, or worse.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson later claimed Ozturk “engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization.” The person said Ozturk, who is from Turkey, had had her student visa revoked.

To be perfectly clear, Ozturk is not accused of breaking the law. The Department of Homeland Security hasn’t bothered to explain its reasoning, but several outlets reported that Ozturk co-authored a student opinion piece urging Tufts to recognize the International Court of Justice’s declaration of a “plausible risk of genocide” unfolding in Gaza and to divest from Israel. You can read the article if you like. It does not mention Hamas.

WT actual F? A school opinion piece gets you disappeared??

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

We FUCKING TOLD ALL OF YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN. And you said we were being hyperbolic.

It will get worse.

[–] oascany@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I implore you to go search "Ozturk" on YouTube. A video from the NY Post comes up. Read the comments. I cannot believe the reaction of such an un-empathetic population.

[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you for this. I wish I didn't but at least I know now that this is what the US wants. This is what they voted for. No more rights. No more constitutional protection. No freedom. The land of the privileged.

[–] ubik@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You're assuming 90% of those are not bots.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I absolutely believe at least half of them are just deplorable humans.

YouTube is a cesspool on a good day. If you know where to look (such as "anti-woke" "content" creators' videos), you can easily find an overwhelming number of shitheads in the comments cheering for overt bigotry or violence against others. A recent news topic and barely-moderated videos of a non-white woman getting disappeared? They're coming out of the woodwork for that, guaranteed.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Does it really help you to pretend that our enemies don’t actually exist? No, your fellow Americans actually do hold these beliefs. They want this and they would not hesitate to do the same to you.

[–] ubik@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not even American. No doubt that awful people and people stupid enough to write a comment of the sort exist. I'm just saying that bots are real and you shouldn't assume everything which is on the internet is written by an actual human, or at least a person who is doing so in good faith.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These are the same people who go on and on about how the "vast majority" of americans are not supporting the actions of their government. They need to think like this, that someone else will fix things, otherwise they might have to take some action themselves.

[–] ubik@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're assuming a whole lot of things about me. For instance, that I am even American. Chill. I said no such thing.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Neither did I?

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is terrifying. Anybody can pretend to be ICE and kidnap in broad daylight.

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes , it’s unsettling.

[–] titi@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The people in the US had the chance to vote for a MUCH lesser evil. And they chose to vote for fascism. People get the politics they deserve and with trump at least the leader is as rotten as the country at its core. I'm sure this poor lady does not deserve it. May maga folks experience some of the worst years of their lives for condoning racism, sexism, fascism.

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

MAGAs were already living their most miserable life.

Their goal was always to make everyone as unhappy and unfulfilled as they are, because if I can’t have it, nobody will mindset.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fucking Nazis. Where the fuck is she

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Apparently she’s already in Louisiana. As per the Bostonglobe

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ozturk’s lawyer later said she hadn’t been able to contact her and had no idea of her whereabouts.

America, the land of the free... Right?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

Remember when conservatives were all like fear mongering that Obama was going to do this to them? It was always projection.

[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How long is the rest of the world gonna watch a fascist regime thrive before they intercede?

[–] owsei@programming.dev 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nobody is doing anything about all the others, and I doubt anyone would like to start against the biggest military force ever

[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Id rather die fighting than submit to apathy. Your further input is not required.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

What? Why do you think that observing that no one is coming to save us = not caring about the outcome or not doing anything to affect it? Btw, since you're so against apathy I'm pretty curious 1. What steps you're taking to prevent the spread of fascist policy and ideology and 2. What do you recommend to the average US citizen who feels overwhelmed and helpless to stop the hostile takeover to both make change and feel empowered?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What else was the alternative? A mixed-race woman as President?

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

What else was the alternative? A mixed-race woman as President?

Yeah, I'm not playing your stupid "pick one zionist or another" game.

I despise republicans, and always have, but I despise traitors on my own side even more. If its a choice between fighting the people we've always fought or fighting the murderous traitorous political hostage takers in our own party who espouse the same evils our enemies do, for sure I'm going to clean house of the traitors first, and give them 10x the loathing I would give a traditional enemy. Backstabbing war criminals deserve no less, and Harris was a backstabber who chose to lose rather than throw the Palestinians a bone. That was her choice.

And thats who you want to complain about now? Not bothered that she supported war crimes when the republic was at stake, but just that someone with dark skin and female sex organs didnt win? Seems like a pretty trite and privelaged concern for you to engage in when innocent human children are being blown apart.

and to be clear, I didnt vote for either Harris or Trump. I left just that section blank.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wow, you taught Democrats a real lesson there! At the cost of even more Palestinian lives!

"We did it, Patrick, we saved Palestine!"

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wasnt out to teach a lesson, I was out to let this place implode. I dont export our countries war crimes to other places because thats momentarily more convenient for me-- like you'd prefer.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ohh, so you’re an accelerationist! Now your comments make sense. Well, except the one claiming you’re anti-genocide, but the rest make sense. Kinda.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago

If our system requires blood to keep functioning then it needs to be smashed and recreated. You'd have it just continue. Although your desire to limp it along kinda makes a sad sort of sense, if you ignore your own hand in keeping it going.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They did this in Washington state to citizens during the Covid 19 summer riots.

This is nothing new for Trump. Stay strapped and alert at all times for the next 4 years.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Covid 19? Odd way to write BLM.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

BLM happened because people were bored from the Covid 19 lock downs and hot because of the heat waves that summer.

Otherwise it would have fizzled out after a few weeks.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right. That whole cop kneeling on a person's neck until they died had nothing to do with it.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One of those things where dude is saying the driver died due to a crack in the road, but the car was doing 100 over the limit.

Sure, maybe the protests/riots would've been smaller without Covid, but...

I guess MAGAs are on Lemmy too.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sure chief, how many nation wide riots have happened since Covid 19?

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How many times have you seen a cop strangle someone to death for 9 minutes since Covid 19?

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Do you think cops aren’t strangling minorities to death after Covid?