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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 91 points 3 months ago (39 children)

Religion is a scam built to take advantage and control the uneducated masses.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Except that many highly educated people are also into religions :(

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 74 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Childhood indoctrination works wonders to keep you scam going.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

The whole life has a purpose and eternal soul thing make people want to believe as well

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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 83 points 3 months ago (12 children)

I met people on both sides that had either of those attitudes.
The "I'm always right because I have a PHD" is not uncommon, even on fields not covered by their education. At the same time, I've met many religious people (Muslims, Hindus, Christians) that for them religion was a private, personal aspect that helped them deal with their lives. As a kind of a routine, something done time and time again enough to clear up their minds from stress and give them an anchor when lost.

I'm not religious, but I believe in freedom and the pursuit of happiness, and I support anyone as long as it doesn't interfere with other's.

[–] SnowChickenFlake@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

I see somebody downvoted you already, but I completely agree with you 💯

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[–] uncle_moustache@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"I'm 14 and this is deep."

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Not really. If you read about the history of medieval universities, madrasahs, and mahaviharas, you will see how deeply and widely religious people have studied throughout history. It was customary for religious scholars to learn all kinds of topics, such as grammar, logic, and medicine.

Religions are made up of people, and have accommodated all kinds of people. Some are wise scholars, and others are ignorant conspiracists. Religion can't really be boiled down to one side or the other, though I understand how the rise of fundamentalist Christian fascism might make this hard to see.

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[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 36 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Yeah I’m not so sure about this haha. I work in academia, and there is quite the abundance of closed mindedness and dogmatism.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah no one seems interested in my perpetual motion machine.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In this Lemmy we obey the laws of thermodynamics!

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[–] stormeuh@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I think that's just the comfortable position for humans. Questioning what you know to be true is hard, and the more fundamental the fact the more uncomfortable it is to doubt. Which is also why religion is so attractive.

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[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except they don't even read their own book.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They certainly don't practice what is in there.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

The more you know, the more you know you don't know.

The less you know, the less you know you don't know.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 months ago

Religion is a very broad umbrella. Quite many people understand the divine as an unknowable mystery they never stop being curious about

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Religion: I don't know everything...but my god does!

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

You do realize that's straight up not true right? As a Muslim I don't know how much of a thing biblical scholarship is, but on the Muslim side of things, uh... yeah. Literally no Muslim will say they "know everything", because the non-scholars vaguely know they don't know shit and the scholars will tell you "I don't know shit".

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago

I've met a scholar who joked that these days you are called a Hafiz, if you memorize the entire Quran. During history many scholars referred to as Hafiz also memorized a hundred thousand Hadith (reports about the life of the Prophet Mohamed sas) or more.

It is really crazy how strong many peoples convictions about Islam are, with how little they usually now about Islam outside of the hate filled propaganda they have been fed for the past decades in many western countries.

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[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not all religions claim to know everything.

Yes, the ones that do tend to be violent and oppressive, so I understand the criticism.

But many religions are more about searching truth, learning to love each other and have community. And their followers definitely tend to be modest and have a "I don't know enough" mentality.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago

Religiosity is a spectrom and people of any extreme can be found in every religion. Because religion is human made fairytales and used for whatever it needs to be.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Sometimes religion: "it requires faith, therefore we can and should stop learning."

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