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And there’s why they “unfired” him.
Losing roughly a quarter of a billion per year in revenue makes them rethink things.
—— 9.99 per month for Disney basic 15.99 for Disney plus.
Just for easy math average those two so $12.99 per month.
$12.99 x 1,700,000 x 12 months = $264,996,000
That was his best joke when he came back:
lol... "breaking news on jimmy kimmel and autism"
And how many of those resubscribed, since Disney obviously learned their lessen.
Fuck Disney. If you didn't know who they were, you do now. Publicly traded companies care about one thing:
Not this guy. I'm ok with one less subscription.
It's less than 1% of their subscribers.
It's a drop in the bucket. Sadly.
From what data I can pull they have roughly 125M subscribers, so it's about 1.4%. This still doesn't sound a lot, but it's effect is exaggerated because of their business model: the majority of their cost is for producing shows and movies, i.e. costs that don't scale with the subscriber count. The cost of serving each subscriber is almost negligible. They need some number of subscribers to break even and every subscriber beyond that is their profit margin. Losing a bunch of subscribers directly cuts into their profit.
If true, that's depressing
Just google how many subscribers they have. They're public. It's available info.
It's just shy of 1 percent.
How many of those are through add-on deals like they offer through Verizon? I'm curious how discounted it is through them (some plans offer Disney+ for "free" I believe) and how much that inflates the subscriber rate.
Great question. I used to be able to authenticate to dis ey plus but not vide material with my Hulu creds after the merger which I was exploring for vulns. Did t find much. Plausible though.
And yet it was still enough.
I cancelled after having the service for several years.
And then they jacked up the prices? Good luck with that shit, bozos.
They gotta leach more money from the people addicted to Disney, to make up for the subscriber loss. Line goes up no matter what.
I hate to be that guy but this whole thing has frustrated me deeply. It shows we’re willing to fight back and do know how, but our selective use of that power is rather superficial.
Yes, I understand this was very important in the realm of speech but it still has an overtone of celebrity culture. Most people can’t be bothered to boycott to end genocide or to protest legislation or support the courts or to advocate for worker rights or healthcare, but to save a celebrity that makes this nightmare easier for them to swallow every night? Sign everyone up!
It feels less about protecting free speech and fighting fascism and more about them protecting their humor drug that makes “the bad place” more palpable.
Americans know how to fight back they’re just unwilling to do it unless their TV personality who gives them feel good juice is on the milk carton. I know that’s harsh but it’s just frustrating watching everyone cry about how helpless they are until their feel good nightly placebo(s) was/are on the line.
Again, I get the importance and the way the target was clear etc. It’s just frustrating to watch people cry they don’t know what to do then step up big time for famous people but not their communities, neighbors or their own family’s wellbeing.
This is a huge win and I don’t mean to detract from that. Please keep boycotting and hopefully this drives it home to more people that this is an effective tactic across the board. I just needed to vent a little.
I hear you, but cancelling 1/4 of your streaming services with the knowledge that can be reversed easily at any time is hardly the same as protesting or boycotting something tangible or an entire industry. I don't think this has anything to do with celebrity worship, and it has everything to do with how easy the protesting can be.
This protest could be done from home in three minutes, you don't suffer the consequences until the end of the month, and we all know less TV is better for us regardless of speech so there's very little downside.
I agree Americans aren't doing enough. I wish we were doing more.
People also arent directly paying Israel $20 a month or whatever, which can be cancelled at a whim. The most support that the average American sends to Israel is via US tax dollars. Good luck not paying your taxes just to send a message without ending up in prison, not to mention being unable to buy anything through typical means
Excellent points from you and the person you responded to. I’d still argue that a minimum effort - maximum effect action of canceling subscrptions is still a lot better than just ”hopes and prayers”.
As pompous as this may sound I do think subscription cancellation is an awesome protest tool that might, in best case scenario, affect Disney’s future business decisions. Maybe they won’t hire Alex Jones or make a musical animation about how great Hitler was if they’re afraid that their bottom line will be hit hard.
But yeah, we’re living in a timeline where Indiana Jones punching a nazi is a hate crime so the bar for things to be happy about is veeeeery low.
There are a lot of lethargic people who think "Liking" a post will change the world for the better. Canceling Disney services is one of the lowest effort things we collectively could do as it also provides the side benefit of removing a monthly expense in these overpriced times.
I canceled 2 accounts. It was strictly about fighting fascism and supporting free speech.
I don't even remember who it was. Falon or Kimmel? I don't watch either.
Sadly, most people are selfish and don't give a shit about horrors happening in another country on the other side of the world.
That's why, by the way, when news report on horrors, they state "173 dead people including 2 americans", even though it absolutely does not matter where piece of land the victims were born on.
Good
I'd like to know where those numbers are coming from, but it is believable.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was an internal leak. There’s a lot of hands around this data it’s easy for someone to slip.
Probably from Disney, there's no way for anyone else to know.
Bend the knee again. I dare ya. I double dog dare ya.
Don't resubscribe to any of the Disney related streaming services. Find your love in the high seas, mateys!
Now that they brought him back, there's going to be another wave of revenue loss. A political pincer movement lol.
This is why staying out of politics is usually in a business’s best interests. There is no winning move where pissing off one side or the other is a good thing for $$$
The right was pissed at Disney years ago though (I can’t even remember what BS for); they’ve weathered that storm before.
Disney opposed the "don't say gay bill" at the behest of employees and fans.
Right! Thanks for the reminder (even if it’s more pleasant to forget).
They also made a black Ariel
I think this all started when Disney DARED to do the unthinkable and put a light saber in the hands of a Black actor for about 2mins. On top of that Disney RUINED EVERY CHILDHOOD EVER by making a female the main protagonist of the SW sequels. That was a bridge too far for the cheeto dust covered sad bois who were living with their parents at age 42, and the rest is history.
A decent start
Don't go back.
I'm doing my part!
That number is encouraging.
That number is a lie, mate. Disney doesnt give those numbers out, for very good reason. Its some random on bluesky chatting shit for internet points. And for some reason people are repeating it like its fact.
Welcome to the new mainstream media...
They lost $6.4 Billion in valuation.
Bullshit. Disney doesnt release that information. This is just some random on bluesky chatting shit for worthless internet points and some other desperate sad case repeating it for the same reason.
Cause fuck’em, that’s why!
Good. May it continue to hurt.
I really want to cancel Disney, but my wife won't let me because her currently bed bound mum likes to watch it.
Set up the arr suite and never look back. With jellyseer allowing users to pick whatever content they want, all the complexity is obscured behind the scenes. It just shows up in jellyfin or plex.
If you can't, get other people to cancel in your place.
That's a fuckload of lost solid revenue.
