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Keep in mind the original X Elite benchmarks were never replicated in real world devices (not even close).
They used a desktop style device (with intense cooling that is not possible with laptops) and "developed solely for benchmarking" version of Linux (to this day X Elite runs like shit in Linux).
This is almost certainly a premeditated attempt at "legal false advertising".
Mark my words, you'll never see 4,000 points in GB6 ST on any real products.
They also used the base M4, not M4 Pro or Max
Seems like they're also using two different Intel chips in their testing for some reason.
I'll take cherrypicking for $500, Alex
M4 Max doesn’t have the fastest single core in Apple’s arsenal either, the king is A19 now (yup, the one in iPhones):
lol that’s just the cherry on the whole apple pie.
Now this all makes sense
I imagine things would be much closer if they put a giant heatsink that Ryzen 370 they're comparing and ran it at its 54W configurable TDP instead of the default 28W.
Shouldn't they also be comparing it to Strix Halo instead?
Ah. Thanks for the context.
Well, after they have product out, third parties will benchmark them, and we'll see how they actually stack up.
I saw someone liquid cool an Arduino to push it to the max, but you couldn't declare it to be a regular benchmark...
desktop-class performance at mobile-class power draw
This made my bullshit detector go haywire.
Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme
That doesn't sound very high end, I think I'll wait for the Pro version, preferably Pro Plus.
BadDragon X2 Elite Extreme MAGNUM
The Rare version?
The Raw Rare version ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
That one will go hard
It sounds like an advertisement for a condom or dildo
Don't you want to put on some of this thermal paste?
Where this is going, baby, you don't need no thermal paste!
faints on floor
Elite Extreme
Sounds like it focuses more on shiny RGB than performance.
The ultra absorbent one is the one to get
Let me know when these X elite chips have full Linux compatibility and then I’ll be interested. Until then, I’ll stick with Mac, it has the better hardware.
I'm going to call semi-bullshit here, or there is a major revisionist version or catch. If this were true, they'd be STUPID to not be working fast as hell to get full, unlocked Linux support upstreamed and start selling this as a datacenter competitor to what Amazon, Microsoft, and Amazon are offering, because it would be an entirely new class of performance. It could also dig into Nvidia and AMDs datacenter sales at scale if this efficient.
They put desktop cooling on the testbench apparently.
They’re also comparing to only the base M4 chip, not the Pro.
Also the M5 could still come out this year. But it also might not so it’s still a fair comparison till then.
Anyway if you’re looking for a Windows laptop specifically and don’t need anything that doesn’t run on ARM, it might be pretty damn good. I’d still wait for independent benchmarks.
Yeah I'll wait for independent benchmarks, thanks.
With actual devices
This will be super cool when we actually have OSs that can run on them!
The X1 Elite never lived up to its geekbench scores, and the drivers are absolute dogshit.
The X2 Elite wont match Apple or AMD in real world scenarios either, I'd wager.
Windows 11 will turn this into a 486.
X2 "Elite Extreme" probably in ideal conditions vs. the base M4 chip in a real-world device. Sure, nice single core results but Apple will likely counter with the M5 (the A19 Pro already reaches around 4,000 and the M chips can probably clock a bit higher). And the M4 Pro and Max already score as high or higher in multi-core. Real world in a 14 inch laptop.
It doesn't "crush" the M4 series at all and we'll see how it'll perform in a comparable power/thermal envelope.
I don't hate what Qualcomm is doing here, but these chips only work properly under Windows and the Windows app ecosystem still hasn't embraced ARM all that much, and from what I've heard Windows' x64 to ARM translation layer is not as good as Rosetta 2. Linux support is pretty horrible, especially at launch.
I am simple person. I see geekbench, I ignore claims and rest of article.
I highly doubt this is accurate. Be nice, but doubt it.
*X Elite opens browser windows faster under desktop cooling.
FTFY
How's the GPU drivers though? Especially to me for Linux. These should be used in PC gaming handhelds but Qualcomm support is mediocre
If it's anything like their windows driver support then also awful. Maybe things have improved in the last year or so, but has Qualcomm ever put real effort into making ARM Windows laptops good?
linux on arm is not mature. on windows, typically emulation of x86 is used. They'll need to also support all of the gpu libraries for gaming.
Desktop linux on arm*. The kernel itself has been running on embedded arm deviced for 25 years and on a large portion of phones for 15.
The question was about GPU drivers, and GPU drivers for ARM-based SoCs aren't even mature on Android. They are going to suck on Linux.
Compared to the drivers for Mali, Adreno and consorts, Nvidia is a bunch of saints, and we know how much Nvidia drivers suck under Linux.
How's the GPU drivers though? Especially to me for Linux.
Not. The answer is not.
Can't wait for Linux to support it and Tuxedo creating a laptop with it.
Then Apple releases M5.
When the Snapdragon GPU performance is on par with AMD's 780m or above then we can talk.
desktop-class performance at mobile-class power draw
checks source
windowcentral.com
Nothing to see here, folks.
And here I am with my cheap old quad core doing my stuff.
Except for the theoretical interest, what are we supposed to do with stuff like that? Is it just more data centers? Does I sound like 640KB is enough?
Oh no, each new chip is going to be tree at something than another chip and vice versa. Anyways, what did people have for lunch?
In my experience, arm64 is nowhere close to x64 with heavy multi processing/threading loads.
