I'll just be over here quietly cheering "two fronts" because I'm sure it'll go well for them
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That may sound cheer worthy, but considering they very obviously can't handle even 1 front, attacking another country would have to be for a different reason, a more problematic reason.
Can you expound on the later part of your thought? I'm struggling to picture a scenario in which the Kremlin purposefully opens a second front. The purpose of these airspace raids is to saber rattle and make it so Europe beefs up its defenses and is less likely to give equipment to Ukraine and instead use it domestically.
Russia doesn't act logically and there's a positive feedback loop in the command - where each commander reports situation to his commander as better than it actually is, so what Putin hears from his yesmen, may as well be something like:
- Yeah, we decided not to capture entire Ukraine immediately, but to delay things a bit, so that NATO will send more stuff to Ukraine and have less for itself before we attack them too.
So yeah, it may be that they're just all bark no bite now, but after enough time doing that there'll be real question "are we actually gonna do it or chicken out?" and that will be solely a question of leaders fragile ego.
Im curious if this is true in any way, or is just armchair chatter. Are there actual reports of this?
I can speculate it could be to frame this war as a war against nato, or to get a reason for full scale mobilization, or to get a reason to use nuclear weapons.
"Nuclear weapons use" is an element of their doctrine for foreign policy influence.
They are not fucking idiots. But they do recognize that "nuclear blah blah" works well with cowardly westerners.
They are not fucking idiots? They absolutely are fucking idiots. And they are being backed into a corner. A lot of stuff can happen.
How much do you know about russian history? If your life was on the line, do you think you could write 3 key bullet points (since your life is on the line, you wouldn't have access to a search engine or an LLM) about every decade of 20th century russia? Basic things like 1906 protests, implementation of NEP, Khrushev and so on. No one is asking for in-depth knowledge.
Do you speak russian? How do you know they are not playing you if you don't speak russian?
Your message about "backed into a corner" is exactly what they want you to think. They got you "hook line and sinker" as the North Americans like to say.
What are you thinking exactly?
My main idea on why they'd escalate is because they're sure the EU and NATO will fold this time, definitely, for certain.
They should try their luck in Afghanistan again.
That would put them in direct competition with us now that Trump wants the air base back and says he is willing to go to war with Afghanistan to do it.
I'm not a history guy, when was the last time invading Afghanistan went well?
I think it was back in 1219. It lasted until just 1227. Does 8 years count as went well? Or is that too short?
They call that place the graveyard of empires for a reason, I don't think it's ever gone well.
lots of these events that have occurred might have happened out of inertia. It might be that russians miscalculated and the war in Ukraine should have ended by now, and all these actions are part of a bigger plan
Russia isn't planning to invade Ukraine
- Zakharova on Feb 8 2022.
One guess is all that it should take, given the existing historical precedent.
Haha. Which is also why Poland is trying to be able to shoot down objects in Ukraine airspace.
Sounds plausible. We should listen to this guy.
Moldova is for sure not safe right now.
Yeah, I was reading earlier about Russian misinformation networks relating to Moldovan elections. Scary stuff.
Is it Cambodia?
That would suck cause they just endend that war with Armenia.
Is this you, Ken M?
But why? They can't even do one front well, Russia sucks at war
Not saying this is why... but in theory if he can go through another country to do an end around on Ukraine, he can trade that other country to keep Ukraine. Or even if nato needs to defend itself, it might not spend as much on defending Ukraine. Just guesses though. And they still seem like bad reasons.
They can have Hungary or Slovakia
I understand what you mean, but I'd prefer Hungary and Slovakia changed course, and went full in for Europe and democracy.
Anyways it's not ours (EU or NATO) to give away.
As a friend of both a Hungarian and a Slovakian (and also a few people from a few other niched European nations) I gotta say: nobody deserves to get fucking bombed just because their leaders are twats. Even if they voted for them. Although it's tempting sometimes to let yourself think it, innit.