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The United Kingdom shamelessly prostrated itself at the feet of Donald Trump on Wednesday, throwing a lavish welcoming party for his state visit to Windsor that resembled less diplomacy and more fealty.

In doing so, the U.K. has revealed something deeply unflattering about itself—in the scramble to keep America close, it will debase itself and its values completely.

It will silence dissent, empty out its traditions, and rent out its monarch like a sex worker, deployed to flatter the ego of a man who has spent much of his political life suggesting he should be treated like one, a monarch, not a sex worker, that is.

As stage props go, the monarchy is unbeatable. But if this is what the “special relationship” between the U.S and the U.K. now means, it looks to many in Britain less like a partnership and more like groveling, feudal servitude.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 165 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Labour "Vote for us cause we're not the Conservatives." Proceeds to do everything like a conservative

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Starmer is a conservative/neoliberal from 10 years ago. There is no "left" party in mainstream UK politics anymore. There is only a fascist party, and a conservative party.

Same with Australia, Canada, and most of 14 eyes. Weird... Almost like we said this Overton shift towards fascism was occurring the entire god damn time.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah our "Liberal" PM was asked by the conservative government 13 years ago to be the finance minister. The Overton window is completely fucked up, we have neofascism on one side and the opposite side is neoliberals who are okay with neofacism as long as it keeps the progressives away from taxing the rich and regulating multinationals. Any suggestion that the systemic problems destroying society should be addressed with structural solutions, or even that genocide and ethnic cleansing are bad, has now become tantamount to terrorism.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-stephen-harper-1.7460897

[–] copd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Wait, you think green party isn't left leaning? They gained seats last election with their 2 million votes. who's to say they are not a mainstream political party

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They gained seats, yes, but 4 seats isn't exactly a landslide. They're a force in local politics, but at the national level, they're just really not a major player - at least not yet

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 115 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The royal family and child rapists name a more iconic duo

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it a duo when they're the same thing?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Trump will feel very much at home with the Royal Family, particularly with Prince Nonce to swap fireside stories.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Made up ceremony

Wait till the Brits find out its all made up and the nobility doesn't matter.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The problem is if they decide that William the conqueror didn't actually have allodial rights to the land, then all property rights in the UK are made up too and that's a bridge too far.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We all know it's the rightful territory of the Senatus Populusque Romanus. It's just a matter of time.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Italian Unification but it's everything from Hadrian's Wall to Istanbul.

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Tbf, the whole thing WOULD be much funnier (and less embarrassing) with Colin Mochrie and Ryan Stiles playing the parts of the two doddering billionaire idiots and Aisha Tyler moderating 🤷

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[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don’t know – is this really a “UK bending” thing?

I think this is just how NATO officials have realized how to play the game with him – fluff up his ego a bit and then get to the business talks – you play the game of politics with the hand you’re given.

I guess it might be the greatest public showing so far by a NATO Country(?)

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly, as acts of appeasement go, a fancy dress party seems about the least humiliating thing a country can agree to. Play king for a day, like Make-A-Wish for senile fascists. If that settles the tariff negotiations, then well done.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about the other capitulations to fascism, and equating anti-genocide with terrorism?

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess it might be the greatest public showing so far by a NATO Country(?)

By far, although to be fair, most of the rest of us don't have a royal family.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We technically already have him, but not really.

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If there's one thing the UK is good at, it's making rich people feel important. It's how all those Russian oligarchs feel so comfortable in London, comfortable enough to spill their secrets. Nobody suspects the butler, nobody suspects that behind the pomp and ceremony there's a knife waiting for you.

Trump likes to be flattered, so flatter him, and then get as much cash out of the US as possible! $150bn investment so far as a result of this little bit of pageantry, since all those tech companies are now dancing to Trump's tune.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

From my experience living there for over a decade, including meeting some people from the landed wealth, such warm welcomes to the ultra rich aren't some kind of 5D chess strategy to get their secrets, they're pure and simply a mix of greed and no scruples whatsoever by people who are trained since their teens in image management.

If the English Gentleman stereotype of honorable behaviour was ever true (rather than an image crafted by films, which frankly seems more likely), nowadays it's only about "projecting the right image", which is quite independent of "doing the right thing" (given that the upper classes are literally taught in their private schools to be fake and tell people what they want to hear, being a "posh gentleman" might actually be negativelly correlated with "doing the right thing").

In summary, do not expect honorable behaviour from the present day British elites, especially not the English ones - want to find honor in that country, try the Northern England and Scottish working class (maybe also Northern-Ireland, but I'm not as familiar with those) and a few amongst the middle and lower-middle class in multi-cultural large cities like London.

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

rent out its monarch like a sex worker,

I don't know if they've been paying attention, but their monarch is too old for our President Pedophile. They'd have to offer up Princess Charlotte to interest him.

They should ask Prince Andrew. He knows.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago

Disgusting...

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There’s nothing the British monarchy loves to do more than to indulge and please a child molester

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 week ago

Ya buncha cunts

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

To be fair all kings initially became kings exactly the way Trump is trying to do. No matter how they try to paint it as a God-given right or create elaborate origin myths, it all started with violence, marrying into power, betrayal, political scheming and a lot of inbreeding.

It's kind of appropriate that a kingdom recognizes this (although that was probably not what they were trying to do).

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In my books kowtowing counts.

Britain is sucking the root big time.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

From opening up china by force to sucking orange dick. What a fall.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

America's poodle, not just for joining invasions of Middle Eastern countries.

Also on display in Starmer's policy of arresting old ladies as terrorists when they demonstrated against the Genocide being done by America's pupetter.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair, by being rented out, the monarch finally gets to earn his keep.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

They're some of the world's biggest landlords. This is just aristocrats rubbing elbows.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If ghosts were real, Guy Fawkes would've come back to haunt these guys by now.

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[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Aren't the royal sex workers? Isn't their job to have sex and produce heirs so the cycle can continue? Country pimps them out to show up to events and smile, and then to go back home and continue the line.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Honestly I have more respect for sex workers than monarchs. Sex workers actually work hard and provide a valuable service, monarchs simply exist. The comparison falls flat for me

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Weird take. Britain is simply taking advantage of Trump’s ego.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No shit. Been saying for years that he's as easily manipulated as a toddler, and I mean that literally, not even as an insult. Best part? He's too dumb to ever know when he's getting played.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even if he is "getting played", does he care? He gets what he wants without having to act against his personal interests. If anyone buttering him up wants him to do something bad, Trump himself wouldn't suffer for it.

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Giving legitimacy to a fascist just empowers them domestically and internationally. It's not a shell game where you're giving nothing. Legitimacy is directly how governments operate, it's the real currency of the world. Legitimacy is frankly the bedrock of currency itself.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

appeasement is kinda their thing

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago

The brits want to be colonialized for a change?

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Melania really trying to be Carmen Sandiego huh

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Melania knows these pics are going in the history books and has been doing her best to cover her face whenever possible.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Fuck melania. first woman of the american reich.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

FTFY: The United Kingdom government shamelessly prostrated itself

The people in the streets played quite a different tune...

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

wow... what a weak "kingdom"

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[–] bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Who knew I could respect the royal family even less than I already did?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Won't lie. That second paragraph has me more hot for british folk than ever before.

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