I can't believe we're still having this discussion after what we watched live with our own eyes.
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We watched it. They have their own propaganda news network.
Big emphasis on Network in this case. An entire dominant ecosystem promoted by right-wing billionaires and foreign nations like Russia and Israel.
It's called the Conservative Propaganda Machine.
It's not really a discussion. They know damn well they are full of shit. But for the most part, they got away with it because we have a history of being soft when it comes to consequences for traitorous behavior.
Actually, we DON'T have "history" of being soft on Traitors. The only traitors we've allowed to get away with it are MAGAs. That's only because the rise of MAGA Power was accompanied by a parallel decrease in courage by Democrats, who allowed the MAGA Scourge to cheat and propagandize themselves into power without consequences
Yeah we let a bunch of confederate soldiers go home to their plantations and start weaving some lie about noble heritage and a difference of opinion. A whole bunch of traitors should've hanged but instead they went home and laid the groundwork for today.
That's our history of being soft on traitors.
That's a valid point, but I also see how it would have been impossible for Lincoln heal the nation after ordering the arrests and hanging of ever Confederate soldier. They should have hanged the leaders, though.
More importantly, we allowed each state to create their own educational curriculum, so those Confederate states just lied about their history, creating a system of generational hate, inherited by each new generation as "tradition."
2+2=4 everywhere in the Universe. There is no need for each state to interpret that. We should have a Federal educational curriculum that reflects the values outlined in our Founding Documents. That would have done far more to put America on a moral path than a Confederate Genocide.
This is a good comment that adds to this discussion and I agree with everything you've said.
I literally had the fucking guided tour a year before the insurrection and I called out my MAGA ass family who were there with me saying this shit.
I took the guided tour years ago and definitely don't remember beating a police officer to death with a flag pole.
That was the best part!
That's the premium tour, you can get a ticket and a memorial Presidential Pardon by donating $500,000 to your local senator's non-profit, who will make sure it makes it to the big man himself.
Everything is projection with conservatives. Even when their followers are holding the smoking gun they accuse the left of the murder.
Even when their followers are holding the smoking gun they accuse the left of the murder.
It really is the left's fault. The conservative terrorists only attack in response to the left trying to be inclusive. And even if the left didn't directly coerce an attack, it's still their fault because they should have stopped it since they're always talking about protecting others. Check and mate.
I have to put /s because these are based on actual arguments used by conservatives...
I have to put /s because these are based on actual arguments used by conservatives…
I've seen all those arguments and many more. /s is absolutely required.
It’s straight up lies from the top. Lower down believers project but the leaders are purposely lying to make projections easier.
The difference is that people who project their faults aren’t necessarily aware that they’re projecting. The Republican leaders know what they’re saying is not only false but that they themselves are guilty of their accusations.
If there was actually ever any left wing terrorism in the modern day, you would genuinely never hear the end of it
It would be bigger in the media than hurricane Katrina
I understand why they wanted terrorism charges against Luigi that bad now lol.
And now they lost them. Now they have an extremely weak case that they'll probably lose, and Luigi will most likely walk.
The child rapist wants his voters to forget he’s a child rapist
I really like the chart in the article that shows that hate crimes committed by white individuals was going down before Trump started his political career with a bit more earnest.
Release the Epstein files!
Does Quintez Brown not count as Left?
Left, but also: "attempted to kill Democratic Mayor of Louisville, Kentucky".
There is plenty of hatred from "the left" leveled at Democrats. Brown was clearly on the left but is excluded in this article for no reason in particular. The point is made just from the number of rightists on the list. When they start denying that socialists are on the left, we can figure out they aren't interested in telling the nuanced truth.
He is in the article and mentioned as a lefty, but just absent from the article's title. I agree, just say "one out of 40" and you still make your point.
So how many of the above 24 offenders are affiliated with the Democratic Party or any other mainstream reformist, progressive or leftist organisation? The answer is none. The only perpetrator arguably from the Left is Black nationalist Quintez Brown.
They do worse. They move the goal posts to affiliated with a mainstream party.
They don't even do it accurately. Quintez Brown was affiliated with Black Lives Matter. Surely that is a mainstream leftist organization?
Thats just what those vile, insidious leftists want you to think! /s
Why don't we think Tyler Robinson aligns with "the left?" I know there was a lot of misinformation on him, but the situation is becoming more clear. We'll learn more in the coming weeks.
Lastly, right wing influencer Charlie Kirk was shot last Wednesday by Tyler Robinson, a white student from a gun-loving Republican Mormon family. Robinson has no party links, but has reportedly embraced the extremism of right wing racist Nick Fuentes.
Does this still seem correct? His family was conservative, but he was not. Who reports he embraced Nick Fuentes? His family? His partner? Or just "some people" with no credibility?