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For over a century, the automobile has represented freedom, power, and the thrill of mechanical mastery. The connection between driver, machine, and road defined what it meant to own and love a car. But in today’s digital era, a different trend is unfolding. Cars are no longer just machines designed to take us from point A to point B. Increasingly, they resemble something else entirely: smartphones on wheels.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 60 points 12 hours ago

It's nothing less than a war against property rights.

They are pushing software into cars because they see copyright, and more specifically the DMCA anti-circumvention clause, as an excuse to retain their control over your property after they sell it to you. Rentiership is 100% of their goal, and providing useful functionality is nothing but an afterthought at best.

"Subscriptions" to hardware you already own is entirely FRAUD and executives of companies that engage in it deserve long prison sentences.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 46 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine a car without cellular connectivity

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 34 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You mean, like the car that I drive currently? It’s pretty tough to picture, honestly.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Tough to picture? Maybe improve your arts skills.

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

No need to improve your art skills. All you need to do now is feed your 2026 Civic some keywords to generate an AI image.

[–] BCOVertigo@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Archive link to an FAQ for the Slate electric trucklette that claims no sim cards and minimum digital bits. No clue if it will be a good vehicle so don't take this as an endorsement. https://archive.ph/PMKpC

Anyone know other options?

[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 6 points 15 hours ago

Suzuki Jimny, still comes in a very basic electrical system

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago

Fucking sim cards in cars. I hate everything.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 4 points 10 hours ago

Find a car that fits your needs and then pull the fuse powering the sim card before it leaves the lot. If it breaks, put the fuse back and don't buy it.

My 2019 corolla lost the right speaker and mic access when I did that. I fixed the right speaker by crossing some wires, and the mic hasn't really been needed enough for me to dig deeper to fix it.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago

Yes, and car manufacturers are becoming SaaS vendors

[–] gilokee@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

aand this is why I won't buy a car made after 2010.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

2016 is still a good year as most of the connected tech isn't supported anymore as it's on the 3g network.

[–] gilokee@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

good to know!!

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 9 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

IMO cars peaked around 2015

Interiors looked really nice and you had analog dials etc. Wish some small screens, just enough.

Today it's just big plastic dashboard with cheap tablets stuck in them

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[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Eh, my early 9th gen civic is nice, though I think they ruined it only like coupla years later with cell radios.

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[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (9 children)

Some of these comments are the most elitist, contrarian bullshit I've ever heard.

This article is about the positives and negatives of car connectivity, not how cool you are because you choose to ride a bike. You're so cool because instead of choosing to not connect your phone to your car, you bought a rusty 07 Camry?

I'm not the biggest fan of the choices these companies are making either, but if your 1997 Mazda 929 is a personality trait, it's not much different from the ding dong who bought the Ram 3500 to showcase his peanut balls.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Personally I think it is cool to not give money to anti-consumer companies, which I assume all car companies have become by now if they all have computers. Certainly they cannot forever resist the temptation to use the power they have over users when they control the software running on our hardware.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

I don't disagree with either of your points. However, I'm not edgy because I refuse to shop at Target. I'm saying these comments are a bit smug.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

The sad thing is 'smartphone on wheels' is a slur.

Smartphones don't have to be soulless and uniform and enshittified and subscription based and completely inaccessible and straight up anti-consumer/designed to fail, but here we are.


I really hope Slate takes off though (and they make a nimble hatchback for their next chassis). It feels like the antithesis of all this.

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[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (13 children)

I don't currently drive since I live in a city with great public transit but if i was forced to get a car it wouldn't be made after 2006. I like buttons and don't want to spend $400 replacing my rear view mirror because its linked to my touch screen for no damn reason

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 7 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Don't forget the transformation from a 5 buck bulb to a 1000 buck complete LED-system. Yay!

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[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Sadly yes and they’re mainly taking the worst aspects. Normal built in features like heated seats as subscriptions, dropping smartphone integration for their own far inferior dogshit UI and features, and so on.

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[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Ads between gear changes in 3…2…1…

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago

We're not too far detached from that being reality already. There are several car brands that straight up block your entire infotainment system to show their own ads

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 11 points 11 hours ago

If the state of open source phones are anything to judge by, we will have open source cars at some point, except the foot brake isn’t working yet, so you’ll have to use the hand brake for now. Cars and phones both take a lot of resources to develop, and maybe you’ll be able to “de-Stellantis” your car at some point instead of going fully open source, but judging by the recent steps Google has taken to weaken de-Googling, I’m not sure how long that would last either.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

the automobile has represented freedom

That's a part I never understood.

Cara are fucking expensive, they're literally money drains. Unless you have that much money, you ainns having a car.

In Europe, bot having a car generally nis perfectly fine, you still can go everywhere easily as that place hasn't been turned into a cars-only paradise

In the US, and countries that modelled themselves after it, you're not going anywhere without a car. Public transit it shit at best and in many places completely absent. Want to try a bicycle? Good luck, you gotta mix in with the murder cars.

Cars do not represent freedom, they're the opposite

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago

In Europe, not having a car generally is perfectly fine

In cities.

For those living in the countryside, not really, as distances are huge and public transport is rare (think a single bus that stops at a bus station a km or two away and passes maybe once every 2h) or non-existent.

That said, over 70% of people in Europe live in urban areas.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yes it’s why China was able to leapfrog and become a EV manufacturing giant. They were never able to compete in the traditional ICE vehicle market with the Europeans, Japanese and Americans. Since building an internal combustion engine that complies with the regulation, is fuel efficient and fast is really difficult for them since they lack the century of experience that the other manufacturers have. An electric engine is much less complex and since China has decades of experience building batteries, electronics and software, because they make the smartphones for almost every smartphone brand in the world, they were able to set up shop and catch up to foreign competitors very quickly in the EV market.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 9 points 5 hours ago

They've been. Demand your privacy back

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Cars have been giant ~~smartphones~~ {tracking and data collection gold mines} for years now

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

If they are, would that make old cars giant feature phones on wheels?

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[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It has wheels so the computer doesn't touch the ground you know.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 14 hours ago

What becoming?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 8 hours ago

Combining two of the things I most hate. Makes sense.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago

My radio doesn't even have a screen 😅

The only computer in my car is the radio, and that stays off most of the time. I'm honestly thrilled to not have so much tech in the car. Its nice to be able to fix nearly anything with some pliers, a multi-meter, and an adjustable spanner.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago

Bill Burr calls it "driving an iPad"

[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

My car is basically an accessory that turns my phone into a car, yes.

[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago
[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

the thrill of mechanical mastery

I remember people in the 80s/90s complaining that those pieces of shit were broken all the time. Not anymore IMHO. There was only thrill for a few car enthusiasts.

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