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For over a century, the automobile has represented freedom, power, and the thrill of mechanical mastery. The connection between driver, machine, and road defined what it meant to own and love a car. But in today’s digital era, a different trend is unfolding. Cars are no longer just machines designed to take us from point A to point B. Increasingly, they resemble something else entirely: smartphones on wheels.

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[–] iii@mander.xyz 36 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine a car without cellular connectivity

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 30 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You mean, like the car that I drive currently? It’s pretty tough to picture, honestly.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Tough to picture? Maybe improve your arts skills.

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

No need to improve your art skills. All you need to do now is feed your 2026 Civic some keywords to generate an AI image.

[–] BCOVertigo@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Archive link to an FAQ for the Slate electric trucklette that claims no sim cards and minimum digital bits. No clue if it will be a good vehicle so don't take this as an endorsement. https://archive.ph/PMKpC

Anyone know other options?

[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 4 points 5 hours ago

Suzuki Jimny, still comes in a very basic electrical system

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

Fucking sim cards in cars. I hate everything.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 3 points 1 hour ago

Find a car that fits your needs and then pull the fuse powering the sim card before it leaves the lot. If it breaks, put the fuse back and don't buy it.

My 2019 corolla lost the right speaker and mic access when I did that. I fixed the right speaker by crossing some wires, and the mic hasn't really been needed enough for me to dig deeper to fix it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 32 points 3 hours ago

It's nothing less than a war against property rights.

They are pushing software into cars because they see copyright, and more specifically the DMCA anti-circumvention clause, as an excuse to retain their control over your property after they sell it to you. Rentiership is 100% of their goal, and providing useful functionality is nothing but an afterthought at best.

"Subscriptions" to hardware you already own is entirely FRAUD and executives of companies that engage in it deserve long prison sentences.

[–] gilokee@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

aand this is why I won't buy a car made after 2010.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Eh, my early 9th gen civic is nice, though I think they ruined it only like coupla years later with cell radios.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

2016 is still a good year as most of the connected tech isn't supported anymore as it's on the 3g network.

[–] gilokee@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

good to know!!

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

IMO cars peaked around 2015

Interiors looked really nice and you had analog dials etc. Wish some small screens, just enough.

Today it's just big plastic dashboard with cheap tablets stuck in them

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago

This is why I ordered a Slate.

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[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Some of these comments are the most elitist, contrarian bullshit I've ever heard.

This article is about the positives and negatives of car connectivity, not how cool you are because you choose to ride a bike. You're so cool because instead of choosing to not connect your phone to your car, you bought a rusty 07 Camry?

I'm not the biggest fan of the choices these companies are making either, but if your 1997 Mazda 929 is a personality trait, it's not much different from the ding dong who bought the Ram 3500 to showcase his peanut balls.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Personally I think it is cool to not give money to anti-consumer companies, which I assume all car companies have become by now if they all have computers. Certainly they cannot forever resist the temptation to use the power they have over users when they control the software running on our hardware.

I don't disagree with either of your points. However, I'm not edgy because I refuse to shop at Target. I'm saying these comments are a bit smug.

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[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Sadly yes and they’re mainly taking the worst aspects. Normal built in features like heated seats as subscriptions, dropping smartphone integration for their own far inferior dogshit UI and features, and so on.

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[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't currently drive since I live in a city with great public transit but if i was forced to get a car it wouldn't be made after 2006. I like buttons and don't want to spend $400 replacing my rear view mirror because its linked to my touch screen for no damn reason

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Don't forget the transformation from a 5 buck bulb to a 1000 buck complete LED-system. Yay!

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

But you will spend 1500 bucks replacing everything else on the car.

Also cars have plenty of buttons.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (9 children)

$1500 put into a 2003 Honda Accord is COMPLETELY different than putting that into a 2016.

And I want ALL buttons. No touch screen AT All

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The sad thing is 'smartphone on wheels' is a slur.

Smartphones don't have to be soulless and uniform and enshittified and subscription based and completely inaccessible and straight up anti-consumer/designed to fail, but here we are.


I really hope Slate takes off though (and they make a nimble hatchback for their next chassis). It feels like the antithesis of all this.

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 7 points 1 hour ago

If the state of open source phones are anything to judge by, we will have open source cars at some point, except the foot brake isn’t working yet, so you’ll have to use the hand brake for now. Cars and phones both take a lot of resources to develop, and maybe you’ll be able to “de-Stellantis” your car at some point instead of going fully open source, but judging by the recent steps Google has taken to weaken de-Googling, I’m not sure how long that would last either.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

If they are, would that make old cars giant feature phones on wheels?

My 97 Wrangler folds in half and takes 1mp pictures.

[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Ads between gear changes in 3…2…1…

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

We're not too far detached from that being reality already. There are several car brands that straight up block your entire infotainment system to show their own ads

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 hours ago

What becoming?

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 6 points 7 hours ago

It has wheels so the computer doesn't touch the ground you know.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

the thrill of mechanical mastery

I remember people in the 80s/90s complaining that those pieces of shit were broken all the time. Not anymore IMHO. There was only thrill for a few car enthusiasts.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

Bill Burr calls it "driving an iPad"

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It'll be interesting to see how Slate does, if it makes it to production.

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

It's DoA. At 20, they kinda make sense. At 27 without the EV credit you could be buying a maverick.

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

My car is a 2023 and I pretty much by-pass all the integrated tech and use apple Car Play.

Watching people whine about tech in cars has always been comical to me. The first time I heard it was in the 80s and how cruise control was going to make cars unusable eventually.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 27 minutes ago

the automobile has represented freedom

That's a part I never understood.

Cara are fucking expensive, they're literally money drains. Unless you have that much money, you ainns having a car.

In Europe, bot having a car generally nis perfectly fine, you still can go everywhere easily as that place hasn't been turned into a cars-only paradise

In the US, and countries that modelled themselves after it, you're not going anywhere without a car. Public transit it shit at best and in many places completely absent. Want to try a bicycle? Good luck, you gotta mix in with the murder cars.

Cars do not represent freedom, they're the opposite

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