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You mean, like the car that I drive currently? It’s pretty tough to picture, honestly.
Tough to picture? Maybe improve your arts skills.
No need to improve your art skills. All you need to do now is feed your 2026 Civic some keywords to generate an AI image.
Archive link to an FAQ for the Slate electric trucklette that claims no sim cards and minimum digital bits. No clue if it will be a good vehicle so don't take this as an endorsement. https://archive.ph/PMKpC
Anyone know other options?
Suzuki Jimny, still comes in a very basic electrical system
Fucking sim cards in cars. I hate everything.
Find a car that fits your needs and then pull the fuse powering the sim card before it leaves the lot. If it breaks, put the fuse back and don't buy it.
My 2019 corolla lost the right speaker and mic access when I did that. I fixed the right speaker by crossing some wires, and the mic hasn't really been needed enough for me to dig deeper to fix it.
It's nothing less than a war against property rights.
They are pushing software into cars because they see copyright, and more specifically the DMCA anti-circumvention clause, as an excuse to retain their control over your property after they sell it to you. Rentiership is 100% of their goal, and providing useful functionality is nothing but an afterthought at best.
"Subscriptions" to hardware you already own is entirely FRAUD and executives of companies that engage in it deserve long prison sentences.
aand this is why I won't buy a car made after 2010.
Eh, my early 9th gen civic is nice, though I think they ruined it only like coupla years later with cell radios.
2016 is still a good year as most of the connected tech isn't supported anymore as it's on the 3g network.
good to know!!
IMO cars peaked around 2015
Interiors looked really nice and you had analog dials etc. Wish some small screens, just enough.
Today it's just big plastic dashboard with cheap tablets stuck in them
This is why I ordered a Slate.
Some of these comments are the most elitist, contrarian bullshit I've ever heard.
This article is about the positives and negatives of car connectivity, not how cool you are because you choose to ride a bike. You're so cool because instead of choosing to not connect your phone to your car, you bought a rusty 07 Camry?
I'm not the biggest fan of the choices these companies are making either, but if your 1997 Mazda 929 is a personality trait, it's not much different from the ding dong who bought the Ram 3500 to showcase his peanut balls.
Personally I think it is cool to not give money to anti-consumer companies, which I assume all car companies have become by now if they all have computers. Certainly they cannot forever resist the temptation to use the power they have over users when they control the software running on our hardware.
I don't disagree with either of your points. However, I'm not edgy because I refuse to shop at Target. I'm saying these comments are a bit smug.
Sadly yes and they’re mainly taking the worst aspects. Normal built in features like heated seats as subscriptions, dropping smartphone integration for their own far inferior dogshit UI and features, and so on.
I don't currently drive since I live in a city with great public transit but if i was forced to get a car it wouldn't be made after 2006. I like buttons and don't want to spend $400 replacing my rear view mirror because its linked to my touch screen for no damn reason
Don't forget the transformation from a 5 buck bulb to a 1000 buck complete LED-system. Yay!
But you will spend 1500 bucks replacing everything else on the car.
Also cars have plenty of buttons.
$1500 put into a 2003 Honda Accord is COMPLETELY different than putting that into a 2016.
And I want ALL buttons. No touch screen AT All
The sad thing is 'smartphone on wheels' is a slur.
Smartphones don't have to be soulless and uniform and enshittified and subscription based and completely inaccessible and straight up anti-consumer/designed to fail, but here we are.
I really hope Slate takes off though (and they make a nimble hatchback for their next chassis). It feels like the antithesis of all this.
If the state of open source phones are anything to judge by, we will have open source cars at some point, except the foot brake isn’t working yet, so you’ll have to use the hand brake for now. Cars and phones both take a lot of resources to develop, and maybe you’ll be able to “de-Stellantis” your car at some point instead of going fully open source, but judging by the recent steps Google has taken to weaken de-Googling, I’m not sure how long that would last either.
If they are, would that make old cars giant feature phones on wheels?
My 97 Wrangler folds in half and takes 1mp pictures.
Ads between gear changes in 3…2…1…
We're not too far detached from that being reality already. There are several car brands that straight up block your entire infotainment system to show their own ads
It looks like you're trying to brake. You've used up this months braking quota. Breaking will be enabled again in two weeks. Please enter credit card details to upgrade your subscription to allow unlimited breaking*.
*Fair use policy, limitations apply. Braking is not available on all roads. If you're using the brake to often, an additional braking fee might be applied to your credit card for each use. Braking fee and subscriptions do not include mechanical wear, new parts or checks by a mechanic.
What becoming?
It has wheels so the computer doesn't touch the ground you know.
the thrill of mechanical mastery
I remember people in the 80s/90s complaining that those pieces of shit were broken all the time. Not anymore IMHO. There was only thrill for a few car enthusiasts.
Bill Burr calls it "driving an iPad"
It'll be interesting to see how Slate does, if it makes it to production.
It's DoA. At 20, they kinda make sense. At 27 without the EV credit you could be buying a maverick.
My car is a 2023 and I pretty much by-pass all the integrated tech and use apple Car Play.
Watching people whine about tech in cars has always been comical to me. The first time I heard it was in the 80s and how cruise control was going to make cars unusable eventually.
the automobile has represented freedom
That's a part I never understood.
Cara are fucking expensive, they're literally money drains. Unless you have that much money, you ainns having a car.
In Europe, bot having a car generally nis perfectly fine, you still can go everywhere easily as that place hasn't been turned into a cars-only paradise
In the US, and countries that modelled themselves after it, you're not going anywhere without a car. Public transit it shit at best and in many places completely absent. Want to try a bicycle? Good luck, you gotta mix in with the murder cars.
Cars do not represent freedom, they're the opposite