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[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 136 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

If anyone's feeling pretty hopeless about finding this out for the first time, I recommend this documentary about the cartoon frog's creator suing Alex Jones and trying to take back his ownership over Pepe from the white power weirdos. It's very uplifting and the artist is a pretty likable guy.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 18 hours ago (8 children)
[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 24 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Probably had to do with the country copyright laws :/ I had personal videos blocked because they used music that in over country was free to use and in others wasn’t… or maybe he hates you in particular 🤷‍♀️

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 120 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

I KNOW RIGHT???

And people were like "oh the killer carved UWU what's this and Helldivers 2 memes on his bullets, that's common in Groyper circles"

Bro are you talking aboutttttt, what do you mean????
I just find it absurd how these niche-in-a-niche-in-a-niche communities develop and how seemingly random bits of internet culture turn into dogwhistles inside, it reaches a point where I'm just like dude, our lizard brains can't handle the internet. We just weren't wired to work like this, there's no way

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 43 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I really, truly, with all of my being, feel that we are reaching the end limits of what the human mind is currently able to contend with. We are so overstimulated it's insane. We literally need to evolve our physical bodies as a species to continue living as we are or we will literally die.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 30 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

Or maybe just not go on the internet so much?

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There is no limit. Things are really really bad? They can always get worse. Rock bottom is a flawed analogy.

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry man, but it's going to get worse before it gets better.

And I have no idea if it's ever getting better

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 19 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I saw someone who described the murder as a shitpost and that scarily makes sense.

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[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 16 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I'm a grown-ass, nearly 40 year-old family man, and I fucking know what "uwu" is. These idiots think they're "exposing the conspiracy", when in reality anyone who has spent more than 4 seconds researching any meme would immediately recognize it.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

It wasn't even "uwu" meme

It was the "OwO what's this?" Meme. Which makes it even weirder/funnier/messed up

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck, we invent some useless shit. I wonder what'll be around in 50 years? Tea cosy wars? A disdain for people with attached ear lobes? A religion that proclaims the colour yellow to be heresy?

[–] Funky_Beak@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

Careful what you say about yellow or they might come for you next.

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[–] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 18 hours ago

You overestimate progress in the field of bigotry. In 50 years they will hate (in no particular order) people who are:

  • black
  • brown
  • jews
  • asians
  • gay (as umbrella term, come at me lesbians)
  • genderfreaks (saying it as a genderfreak)
  • overwheight
  • neurodivergent
  • religious minority
  • homeless

So, pretty much the same as 50 years ago

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 32 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Targeting Charlie Kirk

What the fuck?! Seems pretty relevant to look into re: the past week but no let’s blame it on leftists

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It is very relevant yeah. They hated Kirk, and it very well may be that the shooter was a groyper

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 25 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Even though it is a well written, informative and comprehensive article, I still feel like I am losing braincells reading it. It is so incredibly stupid what some humans stoop to.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 16 points 23 hours ago

Thanks. Also interesting to read about the origin of Pepe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_the_Frog

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

My one consolation over finding out about this whole fight between different groups of fascists (besides the fact that the fascists are fighting each other, that's always a net positive) is that I can refer to it as gang violence.

Kirk was killed in a turf war between his gang and a rival gang immediately after trying to downplay mass shootings by asking "with or without gang violence?"

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 19 points 13 hours ago

Just when I thought it couldn't get any more ironic

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 71 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I didn't even know about the Groypers till Charlie Kirk was killed by one.

I only knew Nick Fuentes as "That guy who tried to sue Antifa" and later "The Right Winger who disavowed Trump in 2024"

Apparently there's controversy about him not "really" being an Incel because he had a girlfriend in high school, and he believes anything outside of being celibate is gay, because being affectionate with a woman is unmanly.... and I'm like...

"This is too much even for me."

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 39 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I didn't even know about Charlie Kirk until Charlie Kirk was killed by a groyper. I knew there was some rightwing crank being mocked for having a tiny face on a huge head, but that was it. My main reaction after the shooting was "damn, that really is a tiny face".

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[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Wait'll you hear about that time Fuentes accidentally streamed himself watching gay porn. Or his date with a catboy!

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 57 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

From what I'm gathering, it seems like one group is more "traditionally" American racism... And the other group is more like WW2 Nazi racists?

Either way, they're racists and not worth the oxygen they're consuming.

Can I just continue to have incredible distain for all racism? Because I'd hate to be branded as a sympathizer to either group. They both sound horrible.

The only surprising thing to me here is that racists hate eachother enough for this level of violence. I don't necessarily consider that a bad thing, I just thought they would... I dunno, bond over their mutual hatred of other races, rather than fight eachother over who is more racist.

... Not that I'm complaining. Having racists kill other racists makes it easier to fight against the groups that remain. Both groups of racists deserve to be put down. Not that I have the ability, capability, opportunity nor motivation to do that work myself..... I'm just not going to complain when one group kills the other, and the first group ends up in jail for life because of it. Honestly, that's an absolute win IMO.

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[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did not learn what they were recently, because unfortunately I was raised on 4chan. Once you have a certain part of your brain plugged into that shithole website, certain bits of information will just make themselves available to you through the ether. You absorb information by osmosis (Jones). I wish I couldn't. Skin me alive.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

It's like gaining eldritch knowledge. It unlocks certain aspects of reality unseen before now, at the cost of some of your sanity, driving you mad with understanding. And everyone around you thinks you've lost your mind

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

So the one thing about fascism, especially in its late stages, is that it tends to eat itself alive. When they run out of enemies, they create enemies.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

late stage

You are far more optimistic than I, my friend.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

While I agree fascist tend to indulge in self harm via factionalism, I don't think this is really that, nor is it late stage. We're approaching the stage where the fascist shed their traditional conservative mask and start enforcing their real ideology over the traditional conservative party.

People forget that 4 years before the Nazi started their purge on greater German society during Kristallnacht they first purged and consolidated power in their own house during the night of the long knives.

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[–] nozone@sh.itjust.works 32 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

They're just losers who live online trying to outdo each other to hold the most extreme view points possible so they can stand out in their depressing little discord shitholes. It's such a depressing reality I can't even imagine it. No wonder they become mass shooters.

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[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't even getting to the part where Nick Fuentes gets red in the face arguing that he's definitely a real incel, and denying accusations that he secretly gets laid.

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 28 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I have a feeling the trial is going to be a cringe fest of internet memes. Lawyers explaining to the jury what 4chan and pepe is. The trial Charlie Kirk deserves.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 27 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I despise every new term for Nazis.

They're just fuckin' Nazis. Don't spread their newsletters.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 24 points 21 hours ago

I mean, most white people feel the same way. We learn about it and it's like, wtf.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 23 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (16 children)

It’s about whether you hate Jewish people the right way or not. It has nothing to do with brown people as both groups equally hate them.

Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Pepe went the way of the swastika, and it's truly sad. 😭

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It should be a war crime to explain to my mother what a groyper is, what "OWO" is and how to pronounce it.

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[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 18 points 2 hours ago

the normalization of nazi culture makes me want to fucking die

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago

There's not just 2

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