A thirteen year old facing four felonies is fucked almost as bad as a thirteen year old having twenty-three guns.
Charge the mother with the felonies and give the kid a chance.
this post was submitted on 09 Sep 2025
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The boy’s mother, who attended the court hearing, suggested in an interview afterward that the social media posts were an attempt to “be cool” among peers, KOMO-TV reported.
Obviously this is mom's attempt to undersell her child's plans, but I fully believe this has become a legit motive for young shooters. It's hard to fully articulate my theory, but it's something like: the more they rely on social media for self-esteem and validation, the less connected they feel to real-life people and events. They scroll through an endless stream of videos of humiliation, war crimes, pranks, and memes while having fewer of these experiences in real life. For some young people, their greatest achievement is to post a "deviant lick" that goes viral - a shocking inside joke that will label them a "fucking legend." Add in a heavy dose of climate doom and cynical comments like, "Younger generations are totally fucked." If someone feels like they have no future, at least they can grab a gun and blast their anger and despair at some NPCs while livestreaming for one last chance for some online attention.
Yes, it would help if guns are less accessible, but we NEED to be working on the epidemic of social isolation.
I highly recommend the short Netflix series, "Adolescence". Not only is it highly topical and insightful into the areas you mentioned, but they're 45 minute episodes done in one shot. The acting, directing and filmography is incredible.
Good god that was an intense show.
I almost can't believe I made it through the whole thing.
Ah, it's been at the top of my list forever and I keep forgetting. Thanks for another reminder. I will watch soon!
Lock the mother up
Short of a diagnosis of psychosis or sociopathy that's one hardcore indoctrinated kid. If his mother didn't teach him to hate she sure as hell didn't teach him how to love.
Wonderfully said. I don’t think he learned it from his mother, he probably learned it online while his mother ignored him— or, just never thought to look what her child was doing online, which is a parents responsibility.
But who knows, maybe she’s tied to some crazy right wing organization!
Stop allowing children to have guns. Thank you for your attention to this mater.
A dozen generations of American children grew up learning to hunt and shoot targets without significant incidents. School shootings only became epidemic post-9/11, or maybe the late 90s if you stretch the definition. Guns are dangerous but there's more happening here than a direct causal relationship.
Wealth inequality is higher. Education is waning. Food security is a big problem. Limiting access to guns is a solution but it isn’t the root issue for sure.
Things shifted when guns became less of a tool and more of a cool thing.
It took one generation for my family to only have hunting rifles they used in the house… to collecting various guns just because they can.
Yeah, grew up around guns and always had easy access to them. I also grew up learning gun safety for as long as I can remember. One of my earliest memories is my grandfather teaching me how to handle the bb gun he bought me for my first Christmas safely and that guns were dangerous and not to be treated as toys.
I also had a terrible time in school and easy access to them if I had wanted to do a school shooting but the thought never even occurred to me. I did get into fights and some of those I instigated but that was all. Something else is wrong with these people that do mass shootings. Gun owners should be keeping them away from unsupervised kids but also there needs to be counseling in place to catch the ones that are prone to violence before they do something. Even if you take every single gun out of circulation violent people will still do violence.
For fucking real! Like I had a bb gun as a kid and that's it, and that was Florida parents! These people live in Portland and have their 13year old multiple ARs and handguns‽ This investigation into them should not take long.
I thought the guns were the parents and the police decided to take them home.
Stop allowing adults to have guns too. Especially the ones giving access to them to their children.
Agreed. Only Trump and those he designates should be armed. The rest of us should remain harmless
I would suggest not relying on Mater to fix the gun problems. He is an international spy but I don't think he's got the tools to fix this problem..
Stop allowing anyone to have ~~kids~~ guns
Thank you for your attention to this matter
23? Jeez
I don't quite understand why that make such a big deal over the number of them. It's not like they're some 20 armed Hindu god, you can only carry and operate so many at one time.
The question is how does a 13 year old child have access to 23 guns. At least in the article it makes it sound like they were his. Obviously he shouldn't have access to any*, but the number does bring to focus just how fucked that household is.
*in a healthy household, teaching a child of that age to fire a .22LR long gun at the range is not uncommon or unreasonable. It's traditional. I learned to fire them in summer camp I think at 10 or 11 (granted it was like 1980 or so.)
Exactly. A couple of locked guns is normal. One or two being discovered unlocked is a problem that good parents treat as an absolute emergency. 23 unlocked firearms is absolute negligence
Allowing a kid to use tools that were designed to actively kill things is not healthy, no matter the household.
Do we also allow kids to use grenades? Drive trucks on public roads? Why not buy sex toys from a sex shop?
Because it speaks to the mindset of the family. They have better than $20,000 dollars worth of guns and ammo strewn around the house and hanging on the walls as decorations. They are gun fetishists and have clearly passed on that mindset to their child.
Probably the same reason the media does most things, it gets clicks. I agree with you though, I know people that have a huge number of guns, but they collect them, and it doesn’t make them any more dangerous than some guy with 2 unless they’re trying to arm a group of people with old hunting rifles and weirdly specific revolvers of all different calibers.
you don't remember the Vegas shooting incident, do you?
23 and Spree.
Wow that’s some poor parenting going on.
Ban all guns, period.
That will solve your problems. It solved all the problems for other countries, it will solve the problem here.
For those "from my cold dead hands", well, that can be arranged