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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 64 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Maybe -- wait, hear me out -- if they didn't murder people, fewer people would be motivated to "become terrorists". Just a thought.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 35 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The virtuous circle - more murdered people makes more enemies, which makes more excuses to murder people.

It's perfect. Nothing could ever go wrong with it.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Let's also not forget those terrorists who refused to engage in regular line infantry battles like gentlemen, instead sniping from the treelines and striking in small groups at night before stealing provisions and equipment, then fleeing. Their commander even had deserters executed.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Like, I'll be one of the first to condemn Hamas as actual terrorists, attacking civilian targets to spread terror and taking civilian hostages.

... but the appropriate response to that is not to murder every civilian in the other country. And anyone who believes that Israel's behavior is a response and not an excuse for the long-standing ambition of the Israeli right's dream of genocide is not paying attention.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 points 13 hours ago

... but the appropriate response to that is not to murder every civilian in the other country.

Israeli government: So your saying it is a response of sorts?

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 17 hours ago

Sure, but then how do we excuse annexing that country later?

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

I mean, complete genocide is certainly a proven way of achieving that same goal. Dead people don't make terrorists either.

How about - hear me out - we don't try to make everything fit into some kind of utilitarian cost-fitting function. Human rights are sacred. No ifs, no buts, no back-forming some convoluted reasoning why the Right Thing To Do is actually Self-Serving™.

The indiscriminate killing of children is a Crime Against Humanity and that argument alone renders every other argument futile at best, disingenuous at worst.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Have you tried showing him some dehumanising Hollywood stereotypes?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Or trying to describe dead babies on the other side in absurd, morbid, fetishistic detail? That always makes people come around!

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

A boot stamping on a human face. Forever.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today -5 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

What doesn't make it easier is that the kids were under the influence of the radical islam

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Two places in the world where you can be punished for your parents ideas are North Korea and Israel. Everybody knows it's wrong when North Korea does it.

Islamophobia is a hell of a drug.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today -1 points 13 hours ago

Islamophobia? Nope. Are there many things that are very wrong with Islam? Definitely. Farfur was one of them. Parise the jew who killed him.

This all is unrelated to the discussed topic anyway. The fact that Hamas is indoctrinating these children is in no way justifies the murders.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

Since many kids are under the influence of radical Christianity, time to kill them, too.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

As we all know, being sick while under the influence (of radical Islam) is hazardous to your health?

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today -3 points 16 hours ago

Sorry pal, I can't read into what you're trying to say

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Are you really, actually trying to justify the killing of children?

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago

Quite the opposite, brave internet guardian