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[–] dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 100 points 4 days ago (7 children)

honestly there are plenty of things to make fun of abbott about without being ableist. js

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Nothing they would understand. You go high enough and you’re pretty quickly over their heads and it has no effect. Remember this is a studied thing. Conservatives don’t grasp irony and sarcasm. It’s one of the reasons Steven Colbert quit the old show. They didn’t get it and it was having the opposite effect they intended.

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[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

wut idk, is hot wheels ableist or a compliment

like damn bruh, check out hot wheels

complimenting ability diversity sounds like the opposite of ableism to me js

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If the basis of calling him Hot Wheels is because he's in a wheelchair, it's ableist. Just like the stereotype that "all Asians are good at math" is seemingly positive, it's still a racist statement.

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

There was a customer at my old sub shop that some staff dubbed "Hot Wheels" and not endearingly. Everyone hated her, she was rude and mean, and yes she came in with a motorized wheel chair. I phrase it that way because, if you ever delivered to her, she'd answer the door standing up, no chair in sight. She didn't need it, she was just really fat and somehow got an actual wheelchair instead of one of those scooters.

She also once answered her door naked, expecting the delivery guy to be a man. It wasn't, and she wasn't pleased. Didn't even pay, let alone tip. (She never tipped.)

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

My leg is busted and I can only hobble around with a cane. Finally got accepted into seeing a physical therapist, outlook is good, but its gonna take a while to recover.

Recently took a paratransit ride.

Fully disabled guy in a motorized wheelchair got on.

Within minutes, after he asked me what happened to me, we were joking about how he would probably, actually be able to beat me in a race.

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like you made a friend!

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago

The bus driver was actually great too, younger than me, maybe early or mid 20s, before the wheelchair bound guy got on, we bitched about microtransactions in games, and I was able to confirm that yes, games did not in fact always used to be like they are now, with dark patterns and what not... he sounded like a lot of his friends were trying to gaslight him into just accepting the enshittification as normal, that its always been like this.

[–] nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Right I don't see how it's ableist or an insult. She didn't say it like it's a bad thing or associate it with any assumptions. It's not like she called him "Legless Wonder and his Half Pint Segway" or questioned if he can govern from a chair. It's closer to calling him Governor Brown Hair. Neutral. Silly at worst.

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[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He earned it when he pulled the ladder up behind him. Fuck Greg Abbott

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

impressive that he climbed the ladder in the first place

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

All of a sudden the black lady slings back and now she has to reel it in and not be ableist?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't know, I see a distinction between mocking someone FOR BEING disabled, and mocking someone WHO IS disabled. This is the latter imo...

[–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 4 days ago

Meh, he shouldn't be such a vile sack of shit then

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[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 80 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Just remember that there is literally no reason to attempt to engage with Them on any kind of intellectual level. Only give them mockery and shame, or ignore them.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Remember how the “they’re weird” -thing hit them? They HATE being ridiculed

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

They only know like 3 emotions, anger, fear, and shame. They also feel them Very strongly. That specific instance was also a case of them hating being called a name they used to use for others in school, where their brains stopped developing.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

I've racked my brain with this and coming from a family who changed over years from Republican to Democrat, let me suggest some things:

In terms of the high level grifters and psychopaths, yes, undermining the strongman image with things like mockery, humiliation, embarrassment can be very effective not only at getting under the skin of tyrants but making others realize the clowns they are.

Shaming doesn't work with psychopaths because they don't feel guilt.

In terms of interacting with average Joe Trump supporters (the grifted), I do think it's worth planting seeds even if you'll never witness the seed grow yourself. One such seed is attempting to redirect their anger to the rich stealing their hard earned paycheck. Any chance to spin the conversation to trust fund children who never worked like Musk and Trump hijacking our democracy should be driven into the conversation. They're the real culprits for the pressures they feel.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

They understand they aren't engaging with you, they are just playing their base. Democrats have to get that they aren't actually arguing with the Republicans they are setting up talking points for their base.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (22 children)

I dunno why people are upset about this. I see the majority of people complaining about Dems "taking the high road" and avoiding dirty tactics like the Republicans take. "They should take the gloves off and get dirty on the low road", "fight at their level!" I read.

Then as soon as Crockett does take one glove off and makes one borderline offensive comment the reaction is largely, "ugh, no need to be ableist".

Guys, what the hell do you think the 'low road' is?

It doesn't start at breaking the law and blocking supreme court noms, it starts at political midslinging, and the dems are getting "wow that's going too far". Lol. They will not escalate to a higher level of personal risk such as breaking protocols and laws (as the R's do) if they're knocked back at the first rung. They see the public has a preference: protocol above results.

(I'm about to get replies about how mudslinging needs to be carefully crafted to avoid any offensive terms to any group now. Be real. That is not always possible)

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 21 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I'm fine with a black lady basically going "if I'm dei, what does that make you?'

Dems need to remember that if it’s not nazi rhetoric, it’s on the right side. The bar has been lowered to fascism and we still try to hold each other to absolute political correctness.

We don’t have that luxury anymore. Do you believe in equality, the right to vote, the equal applicability of law to even the highest office? Great, you pass. Bonus points if you believe in a strong social safety net.

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[–] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] TheTurner@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

That's what cued me to hate him even more. My mom makes every excuse when I bring that up, even to this day.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (3 children)

He literally called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas in his address to congress. That’s literal racism.

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[–] libra00@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, if you aren't aware of the hypocrisy on the right and the 'rules for thee but not for me' mentality you really haven't been paying attention.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How dare you?!

IKR? Hot Wheels don't deserve this slander.

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[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

My position is that no politician deserves respect.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago

A politian is an elected representative. Their appointment depends on those who put their trust on them.

How politians managed to create a compulsory respect towards them evades me. The position they occupy is not theirs and, for what it counts, makes them the voters and state (as in, every citizen) servants.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It shouldn't BE a position that demands respect, it should be viewed as public service. We are their boss, we pay them. (I mean, we used to pay them, before we decided to allow corporations to own politics, now whatever salary they get as a politician is pennies compared to what the lobbyists give them.)

If you look at political leaders and feel the need to use Midjourney to make a picture of them shirtless and muscular and oiled up while killing terrorists, you have a serious mental handicap.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Respect is earned not entitled.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

I had no idea she said this until now and was like wtf is is hot wheels? Then read the comments....it's Abbott!

Jasmine Crockett just gained more respect from me. Fuck "hot wheels"! Hahaha

[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

A good Republican is a two faced hypocritical Republican. Cant trust them as far as you can throw them.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well a Republican wouldn't be a Republican if they're weren't hypocritical, whiney-ass beotches after all.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] CreativeShotgun@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We in texas call our shitty governor hotwheels because he's in a wheelchair

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[–] Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't make it right. Sorry.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If Hitler had been wheelchair-bound would it be wrong to insult him using the wheelchair as a point of criticism? Real question not a troll.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We should criticize choices, not traits. This happens frequently when the public becomes upset with a trans person, using is as a reason to intentionally misgender them. Or using slurs to talk about a gay, PoC or religious minority when they do something shitty.

Kaitlin Jenner has tons of wrong opinions but she is a woman who is wrong. So in the same vein, it is wrong to make fun of Hitler hypothetical wheelchair. Jasmine Crockett was out of line for her Hot Wheels comment, true MAGA has regularly said worse for years, but that doesn't make it somehow not-albeism.

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