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This consolidation of power is a dream come true for the Big Tech platforms, but it’s a nightmare for users. While the megacorporations get more traffic and a whole lot more user data (read: profit), users are left with far fewer community options and a bland, corporate surveillance machine instead of a vibrant public sphere. The internet we all fell in love with is a diverse and colorful place, full of innovation, connection, and unique opportunities for self-expression. That internet—our internet—is worth defending.

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 169 points 2 days ago (34 children)

If I have to verify myself I simply won't use it, I really don't care, there's nothing so important online that I need to prove my identity to see it. (Banking and shit like that aside of course). Social media? Give me a break I'm already over it before all this ID shit. I hope it all burns to the ground.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this. I refuse to make more accounts, and verify personal info. Ive been prepping for the big disconnect from the internet as a result. there will come a time when it just won't be usable

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago

Tor and i2p say hello. The internet itself will be totally usable. The clear net is what will become unusable.

[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same. I know there are easy ways around it but I'm not going to use them, and I wish more people could take this attitude - if everyone cut down their Internet usage in response to this ID stuff things would quickly start to turn around

[–] other_cat@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would be a big struggle for me but I still agree with you.

[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fact that you recognise it would be a struggle should honestly spur you on even more to do it. People got by for a long time without the Internet and even though now the same infrastructure they'd have used is at best a shell of its former self if not gone entirely it would still be possible. We don't have to stop entirely but if a bunch of sites suddenly find their traffic is way down they'd start to put pressure on about getting rid of ID checks and we might finally see some movement

[–] other_cat@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Oh, I know. No preaching required. I'm from pre-internet days. That's why I agree with you. Being this dependent on the internet is not good for me or anyone else.

Yup, the furthest I'd go is entering a birthdate. Depending on the service, I'm anywhere from 21 to 105 years old.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Same. I hardly use youtube and will pirate anything I want to see.

I am planning on open sourcing phones and computers too.

Silicon valley parasites can do their age verification without me, that is the last straw, I hardly use now anyway.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

But what if they put porn behind a id wall.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago

I don't think porn sites in other countries care about our laws.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I plain feel sorry for the service that attempts to get between people and their porn.

[–] hisao@ani.social 11 points 2 days ago

More people gonna get their porn from darknet. And discover its wider selection of genres...

[–] etherphon@piefed.world 7 points 2 days ago

There's no shortage of other ways to get it for an enterprising person, maybe a few extra clicks once you know where to go. That's likely one of the goals though, whitewashing the internet. It's such a massive business though, but maybe very fractured and independent.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Gay-torrents is still around. Though they really need to set up an i2p instance too.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

People just go to the porn sites that aren't hosted in a jurisdiction that requires ID verification and the ID verifying platforms lose traffic or people use VPNs.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 73 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Absolutely never using any service that requires this. I dont even have any account on those platforms and I never will.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

I completely agree. The minute a platform asks me to do age verification is the moment I leave that platform.

I will take my traffic to platforms that won't do shit like that.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hard to avoid using services that do it when it's your own government that forces the sites & services you use to do this

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Unfortunately sometimes it's too late. Any platform can lock your account and keep your data until you unlock it and GDPR and similar do not protect against it. That's what Twitter and LinkedIn started to do - require verification and no way to delete your account if you decline.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What if the platform you use with your relatives suddenly requires this?

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago

I will stop using it of course. There is a price to pay for not being affected by this. Its not going to be free.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I personally don't use Instagram already, no need to wait for age verification.

WhatsApp is the one I can't skip yet, but it they force this shit I'm out.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

i find it interesting that some of the most debased, vile, disgusting perverts to ever live are passing laws to force regular, everyday people to dox themselves just so they can see a tig ol gilf bitty.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Depends on the platform surely, couldn't a lemmy instance just ignore the UK? Not block, ignore.

I am sure I saw that smaller platforms are seeing a surge in popularity because they are not doing it while pornhub saw a large drop. How many switched to a VPN and how many use another site?

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even safer might be that image that's been circulating. It states that if you're in the UK, the hosting site is required to verify your age, but they're not required to verify your location. Now, please click on of these buttons indicating whether or not you're in the UK to determine whether age verification must be performed.

(Presumably "I am in the UK" leads to an innocuous website)

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'd prefer: "I'm in the UK and want to be age verified" and "I'm not in the UK and don't want to be age verified."

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[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 19 points 22 hours ago

Amazes me how the UK Labour Party and Starmer managed to absolutely squander their one opportunity after gaining power for the first time in many years.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We should just make an Internet that you have to VPN into. Like sci-fi space travel? We can call it the "hypernet".

[–] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We have something like that, it's called darknet.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Its called i2p and tor

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

users are left with far fewer community options

Where is the fediverse in this analysis?

Edit: The article references Bluesky fleeing Mississippi due to risk of fines. Do admins running fediverse instances run similar risks?

Bluesky was the first platform to make the announcement. In a public blogpost, Bluesky condemned H.B. 1126’s broad scope, barriers to innovation, and privacy implications, explaining that the law forces platforms to “make every Mississippi Bluesky user hand over sensitive personal information and undergo age checks to access the site—or risk massive fines.” As Bluesky noted, “This dynamic entrenches existing big tech platforms while stifling the innovation and competition that benefits users.” Instead, Bluesky made the decision to cut off Mississippians entirely until the courts consider whether to overturn the law.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Just goes to show that blue sky isn't as decentralized as they would like you to think they are.

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[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

there need to be dedicated 3rd party age verification services separate from the site. the people with my identity info don’t need to see what i’m doing on the site, and the site doesn’t need to know my identity any more than a general age group.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

No, as soon as you ask the government to send a site a token verifying you, you’ve given up your privacy to the government.

Also, how are smaller sites going to pay for this service? This is the tech bros using the religious nuts to pull the ladder up behind them. Locking in the monopoly. The only answer is the freedom we’ve had for the last 35 years.

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