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[–] ideonek@piefed.social 294 points 3 days ago (11 children)
[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 84 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It is, because it's actually the term that defines the process of transferring files not from an external networked device - downloading - or to an external networked device - uploading - but between two local devices - sideloading.

It's over two decades old, you downloaded an mp3 from kazaa, and then sideloaded it to your player.

For android apps, I believe the term originates from the method of using ADB to directly write the app to the phone memory, the command of which is "adb sideload filename"

[–] ideonek@piefed.social 36 points 3 days ago (37 children)

And companies ofted do it. Thay recoined jaywalking to put the blaim of the accidents to pedestrians and take away the road from them. They change what littering means in attrmpt to delute the responsibility for polution... We are better than that this time, right?

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[–] G3NI5Y5@piefed.social 58 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Like "Jaywalking", suddenly, walking is no longer the norm, but the car is preferred. The victims are seen as perpetrators.

[–] ideonek@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And "littering" is the "real" culprit why we all drawn in uneccesey plastic. We should blame consumers not the polluters.

Corporations do it all the time.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 229 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Call sideloading what it is, installing apps.

[–] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Found the Rossman subrsciber. 📎

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 209 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Since Google’s goal is to improve security

Is it though? Really?

[–] radix@lemmy.world 147 points 3 days ago

The security of their bank balance.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 34 points 3 days ago
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 26 points 3 days ago

This publication is always repeating Google's nonsense.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 140 points 3 days ago (14 children)

tl;dr you can still "sideload" via adb.

This is so incredibly inconvenient as to be meaningless.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's not completely meaningless because if it's truly the only option I'm going to be using it until I eventually replace my current phone with one with an unlocked bootloader.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm afraid that won't help. There will be even fewer people developing apps specifically for the 0.01% of us using custom ROMs.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're already developing the apps for the 1% of us not just using proprietary apps from the play store. I don't think this just kills open source app development.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's not who we're talking about. We're talking about the 0.1% who have custom ROMs.

It won't kill it completely but it will severely hurt it. The more complicated it becomes, the smaller the userbase becomes.

Apps like Syncthing have already discontinued development due to Google shenanigans + lack of users. That'll only get worse as the userbase shrinks.

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

When my current phone dies I'll be buying a flip phone.

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[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It will be stupid, but I presume there will be a rise in desktop apps or webapps that require you to only plug the phone in and it will handle the rest.

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[–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

good luck updating all your apps that way...

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[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 110 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm not sure why google is over engineering this, proper mainline distros have this solved since forever. Let the community setup trusted repos with gpg keys, then let me trust the repos. If Fdroid trusts the package and I trust Fdroid, who should care?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 116 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Probably because they want to target software that cracks theirs to avoid ads, like ReVanced.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 48 points 3 days ago

Ding ding ding ding ding. It's so obvious, it's because Google wants to be in control and block apps it would rather not exist. Newpipe, FreeTube, Revanced and the like.

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[–] olsonexi@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago

Because it was never actually about security to begin with. That's obviously BS. Google just wants control.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (23 children)

If Google wanted to add developer verification without being evil, it could use SSL certificates connected to domain names. I think the whole concept is ill-conceived, though I'll admit to a modest bias against protecting people from themselves.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is actually worse than integration in Play Protect which can be disabled very easily. Now you can only install unsigned apps via ADB which means just developers can do it.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And very annoying too since some government apps don't like it when you have developer mode on.

[–] Zanshi@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not only government. I can't see my daughter's insulin pump status if I don't disable developer mode.

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[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Or anyone with a computer who installs ADB. You don't have to be a developer.

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We hope that Google keeps its word and preserves ADB installation

lol, adb is the first loophole that will be closed.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

why can google not just code something like this into android:

allow apps from:
( ) All sources (how it is now; allow each app to install apps from external sources)
( ) Just Google Play
( ) Apps which have been verified by Google Developer Program

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 3 days ago

Because they want to stop people from using ad blockers.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 39 points 3 days ago

Option 1 is a potential cause of "lost" revenue.

Late stage capitalism absolutely forbids anything that could cause that, even if the cost of implementation outweighs any potential gain.

[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] mastod0n@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

We should embrace oldschool SciFy and go for (DIY) Cyberdecks.

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[–] covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Which means I can make an app for this "Sideloading" by shizuku..

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