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Justice Department leadership is prepared to use its rule-making authority to declare transgender people as mentally ill and deprive them of their Second Amendment right to possess firearms, according to two Justice officials who shared internal discussions with CNN.

Deliberations at the highest levels of the DOJ follow the recent mass shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis, an attack police say was carried out by a 23-year-old former student at the church’s school who may have been a transgender person or a de-transitioned individual. Two children were killed in the attack, and 21 others were injured.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 153 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Labelling the groups they hate as mentally defective is very much a Nazi move.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We can't have mentally ill people breeding, we better start issuing pregnancy licenses that everyone has to apply for.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 93 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Operation Blazing Sword is a grass-roots organization dedicated to helping everyone, but especially queer people, become responsible firearm owners.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 4 days ago

I am not into guns but I am into that group name! "Activate interlock! Dynatherms are connected! Infrashells are go! Let's go!"

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 91 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The right is about to learn the very important lesson that support of gun control does not necessarily imply a lack of gun ownership.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 9 points 4 days ago

Too bad they're likely to learn the wrong lesson.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The right has never supported gun ownership for groups they consider outside "American identity" just look at Reagan's actions while governor.

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 13 points 4 days ago

White People: "guns are for everyone! That's why there is a second amendment. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

Black Panthers: "oh ok carries unloaded guns'

White People: "wait actually now there are limits"

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where's the "shall not be infringed" crowd?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago

Standing right here. I'd also like to know what part of due process this is, exactly.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Any excuse to kill Americans makes this administration giddy.

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So also reduced sentences on all crimes under the insanity defense? Or just the parts that fits your agenda?

It’s the second one 🙃

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Taking their guns is only the first step against transfolk. Once they're declared mentally unwell they'll start locking them up and forcing treatment on them.

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As supported by the previous executive order that authorizes institutionalization of homeless and mentally ill people.

I am so disgusted by this wretched administration.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Republicans are coming for your guns. This is a test run on Heller.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Any clear-thinking individual has always recognized that the party that will be the first to restrict gun ownership will be the MAGAs.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

And this fixes the economy how? And this releases the Epstein files how? And this helps climate change how? And this stops the war in Ukraine how? And this stops the genocide in Gaza how?

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (5 children)

As a gun owner, this is my promise for America

If you come for my guns, we will have a gun fight, don't worry I know I'll lose, but I won't be alive when you put dirty hands on my guns.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The problem is, everyone has this fantasy storyboard in their heads of the cops showing up going door-to-door with their MP5s and riot shields in a nice neat line loudly announcing their intentions. That is absolutely not how gun confiscation is going to work.

Instead, once they've declared that trans people or Democrats or whoever else are now blanket banned from owning guns, any time you interact with the police, let's just say during a (probably spurious) traffic stop, your name will come up on their little computer as a "person prohibited" and they'll put you in handcuffs and stuff you in the back of a police car right then. And then go break into your house and toss it looking for guns when you're not there to stop them. There will be no fight. You'll already be under arrest for something else. They'll find (or plant) whatever they want, and charge you with an additional nine hundred crimes that are all rewordings of the same thing, and put you in jail. When they come up to you they're not going to be talking about guns, they're going to start off with some low-grade bullshit you think you can talk yourself out of but use that as a pretext to lock you up for your guns.

There will be no headlines of jack booted thugs going around systematically kicking in innocent people's doors and garnering a bunch of negative press for themselves that people can rally themselves around. There will be individual local little news articles, one at a time, all along the lines of "Arsenal Of Illegal Weapons Found in [town name] Man's Home/Car By Brave Policemen After Conducting Traffic Stop, One Of Which Was a High Capacity Black Semiautomatic AR Glock Assault Child-Shooter," with an article underneath carefully spin-doctored to slander the individual in question as a mentally unstable transgendered pot smoking child grooming terrorist. They'll do this one at a time, forever, even long after they've gotten everyone the think they wanted to get.

The only defense against that is to assume that any time a cop looks in your direction you need to lock and load right then and there and initiate a fight for your life. Even if you win, you'll automatically be the bad guy.

Are you ready for that?

Is anyone ready for that?

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 9 points 3 days ago (6 children)

all you need is to take 1 down with you when you go. and for them to know that 1 of them isn't going home.

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lotta people willing to arrest people who are unarmed for a nice paycheck, a lot less are willing to die for that paycheck.

The left needs to be armed like yesterday, and we need to be protesting armed to the teeth. Watch how magically the police and ice let them be.

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[–] rayyy@piefed.social 26 points 4 days ago

First they came for the gay's guns.........

It is important to set up a system to confiscate guns. Try it on a small group then expand gun confiscation group by group. Eventually a loyalty pledge will be required, then conscription.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

I saw the headline a day or two ago about how they wanted to remove their guns, and my first thought was they're going to declare them mentally ill.

Sigh

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Mentally defective? Voting republicunt is mentally defective!

Nice distraction though: RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I was wondering when they’d start actively taking rights away.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I thought about those after I posted this.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The horrors coming so fast we can't even hold them in our head @.@

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 16 points 4 days ago

Trans person:

3D prints your ruling

shoots it with a 3D printed gun

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Not surprising. They're gearing up for genocide.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 days ago

We MUST allow Mentally Defective Americans to Own guns but ONLY if they're Shooting up Schools and Churches! OTHERWISE we need to TAKE THEIR GUNS AWAY!

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The NRA is going to all be over this right? Right?

Narrator: The NRA in fact did not get all over it

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Surprisingly, seems like they are. Too soon to be sure of course. https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/politics/nra-transgender-gun-control

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 4 days ago

That describes every MAGA, as well.

[–] Brutticus@midwest.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Really??

You don't think it has already begun?

[–] Leather@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Hey Human, be cool. Not everyone gets it at the same time. Let's form coalition.

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[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If at least half of the republican supporters are not mentally defective, I don't know who is...

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[–] kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Funny, we've already labeled Republicans this way 😂

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[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

the sheer irony. i’m about to spin up a site that tracks metrics of MAGA vs the rest of the country in crime and fatalities

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure the 2A crowd will be "up in arms" because of this...right?....right???

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

And when the prey has been defanged, then come The Camps.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How are they gonna take away their guns if they are armed? Hahaha

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Set up snitch lines for snitching on trans people, get medical doctor loyalists to snitch on trans people, they can find out who is trans pretty easily, then use ICE to sweep them up.

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[–] ssroxnak@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, everyone! The red flag laws will make this legal!

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