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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 130 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Both cars support oppressive dictators, but one is cheaper, supports CarPlay / Android auto, and has actually buttons for things.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 93 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I am not sure you can say BYD supports a dictator per se, more like it exists in a state capitalist country where you exist at the behest of the dictator.

Elon actively pushed and spent money to get trump elected.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Well played sir, well played.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 29 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Pooh bear is actually starting to look less oppressive in comparison these last 7 months tbh

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, the CCP has already done a lot of armed crackdowns and disappearing. They’re in the phase where people are too scared to resist.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 15 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Also quite true. They no longer need to use the threat of violence because of the implication

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is what I hate. One is owned by a fuck cunt. The other is owned by china. Neither one are actually good options if you are not buying one because of their beliefs

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 21 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Other options exist; you don't have to buy either. Volkswagen Group, Audi, Renault, BMW, Fiat etc all make EVs in Europe. Hyundai & Kia also both make excellent EVs.

Buying a Tesla is a choice these days. Nobody trips and falls into Tesla ownership. And although those cheap Chinese manufacturers look mighty tempting, they're not the only alternative out there.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 66 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Good thing the Tesla board voted to give Elmo all those billions to make him stay, because for a second there was an actual risk that Tesla could survive as a company without Elmo, but now they kept him and made sure they'll all go down off that cliff.

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[–] tfm@piefed.europe.pub 60 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Let me guess, the stock did go up?

[–] kiku@feddit.org 70 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Today down 1.37%, but up 7.14% overall for the week.

[–] tfm@piefed.europe.pub 63 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm sure the free market knows what's right /s

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] MacStainless@piefed.social 20 points 4 days ago

Full unsupervised robotaxi while your car makes money for you as you sleep, in 6-months. Pinky promise.

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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

And it's totally not just a rich man's playground.

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 56 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How tf does someone with a bajillion dollars look like a pile of wet garbage bags at 54? Aren't they all supposed to be using lotions made from aardvark assholes and incubus foreskins to maintain immortality?

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Literal vampire shit lmao.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well it turns out that ketamine isn't the elixir of life.

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[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 35 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Come on Canada, let us have cheap BYD, fuck the US economy.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

nah, forget about them

let us have economical cars because we don't need these massive expensive things just to go 5km to get a load of groceries

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Let us have safe bicycle infrastructure do that we can bike to those stores, how about that? And with that, add mixed constructions in the suburbs so that people have small local stores around.

A bike costs a fraction of a car

Bicycle infrastructure building and maintenance costs a fraction of that for cars

Bicycles don't emit CO2. And for those wise asses saying that the cyclist does, it's a fraction of a fraction of a car because you're not lugging 2 tonnes of stell around to transport you and a bottle of milk.

Cycling infrastructure is much more efficient, you can push a shit tonne more people over the same road if you don't need big ass cars. Yes, even your Mercedes smart car is I ass compared to a bicycle

It creates much much less pollution from tire dust

It's much safer, bicycles kill only a fraction of the people that cars kill all year round

It's healthier, people do exercise not because they went to the gym, but all day every day with their bikes

It cuts the noise pollution

It's cheaper because no taxes, no gas needed, maintenance is a fraction of that of a car.

It's way less wasteful

It lowers aggression. Though it may or may not exist, I've never heard of bicycle road rage

Need more?

Less cars is less parking spaces. Parking spaces get cities barely any taxable income. Instead of these ugly ass concrete wasteland parkitsoaces you can now have restaurants with outside patios which can be taxed. Couple that with the cheaper infrastructure, and that alone should be an obvious reason as to why do this

It's really not that much slower. For typical short trips, bicycles usually only add some 10-20% of required time to your trip.

For any trip over say, 5-10 kilometers, use good public transportation

For those once in a lifetime trips where you actually need a car because you need to transport something huge, use one of those Evo rent-a-car.

In the Netherlands, a huge amount of people don't have a car. Not because they can't (they totally can) but because it's stupid to have one. You can go everywhere by bike, you can jump with your bike in a train when needed to go further, cars are expensive and bad for everyone, why even have one?

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 31 points 4 days ago

Not one more penny for this Nazi!

[–] Legom7@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

My commute is about 20 miles a day. Charging level 1 at work is enough unless I go out on the weekend. My Nissan Leaf has been good enough for me. And it is neither Tesla nor Chinese.

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't get how a company is losing this much in multiple countries yet is still operating?

Like if they can lose this much and still be operating and investments not tanking, would it follow that they can pay better wages and benefits?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The US is corrupt enough at this point the only thing massive corporations have to do to survive is be massive.

Many companies that never even have turned a consistent profit are major players in the US economy.

The idea of valuing actual market competition is a distraction conservatives point to as a cool aesthetic and it has little to do with the economic reality of the US. So long as the right people are in power a dictatorship is totally acceptable to conservatives by and large and the inevitable end result of that as we are seeing are stunning displays of incompetency at the highest levels of power.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

in US the patriotism is injected into a brand. Way more money than brains.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (34 children)

I'm genuinely surprised people be ok with BYD on Lemmy. It's authoritarian spyware, period. There are more options than these two - ww don't have to choose the lesser evil.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 19 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Why would I give a fucking shit? Every new car is a piece of shit spy ware device that collects and sells your data. Honestly, I'd rather china have my data than a fucking capitalist company or America. At least china won't do anything to me, our government is more of a threat to the average American than china is.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

What a defeatist take.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

when compared with elon's nazi spyware?

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 22 points 4 days ago
[–] sundray@lemmus.org 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Quick Elon, buy the President of Europe! /s

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Any non-cunts in the EV manufacturing space? Or is that a prerequisite?

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[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I bought byd stock. It keeps going down. I will never understand investing

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And I've been holding tesla for years and it goes up even when news is shit. I don't get it either

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[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I don't think Musk much cares or ever did. The goal was to milk tesla for every last dime.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tesla will be bankrupt in 2 years.

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