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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Now, I'm not saying everything isn't a shitshow. Clearly it is. Based on the general insanity, I am 100% in favor of getting vaccinated sooner rather than later. But "might" != "will".

I'm quite glad you included article links. Careful, though; the image posted is how propaganda works. By itself, it is unsourced, apart from the Unambiguous Science logo at the bottom (which could have been put there by anyone). UnSci refers to itself as

No sensational headlines, no politicizing of science. Just evidence based information.

And as noted early in this comment, the image says "will revoke" while the reporting says "might/may revoke".

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

I guess they're not authorizing the licensure of them, so that's why it's so tentative. He's doing the trump vague thing, so you can't go after him directly and then slowly take things away.

The rise in COVID comes as the Trump administration has delayed the rollout of the updated vaccine for the fall. Last year, the federal government had fully green-lighted the annual reformulation of the vaccine by June, in time for a rollout that began in September.

This year, however, the Department of Health and Human Services led by vaccine skeptic Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has in effect delayed the rollout of this fall’s COVID shot.

“Updated COVID-19 vaccines have been delayed this year due to federal policy changes, and we are awaiting [Food and Drug Administration] licensure of this season’s products,” the L.A. County Department of Public Health said in a statement to The Times. “This means availability in September may be later than what people experienced last fall.”

The California Department of Public Health also warned that because the federal government hasn’t made decisions on licensure approvals and recommendations, “availability and timing of specific COVID-19 vaccine products may be more limited and occur on a later schedule.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-08-26/covid-rising-fast-in-california-fueled-by-new-stratus-variant-tied-to-omicron

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yah while I'm aware of the situation and what's been said, what has been said wasn't exactly from a highly reputable source, it wasn't even from the DHHS, it was someone who "talked to" RFK, and somehow every news outlet picked it up.

That all said, it could indeed happen, the administration is unhinged and a spike in covid deaths would be great for their plan of manufactured chaos, but they also have a much longer track-record of leaking crazy implications in order to fuck with the valuation of stocks.

They may also be planning to do the Chairman Trump thing again and leverage their threats for a 10% cut of Moderna and Pfizer's profits. I just don't see them cutting off a profitable company for no other reason than an-anti vax narrative they never really cared about, and just pushed to fleece the country's stupidest fucks.

All in all, it's way too unverified and unpredictable to know for sure what's going to happen, however this infographic/poster thing is really terrible. It's framed like an announcement, posted in first-person, and has no links or sources. It's so terrible I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone in the administration made it and leaked it also.

Go get your boosters/vaccines and your kid's vaccines anyway, it shouldn't take this to do the right thing.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you complete a Snickers!

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[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago

You know, there's something called "rule of three"...

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My favorite JFK conspiracy is that no one killed him. His head just did that.

I like to imagine that he entered a Mandela trance that gave him a peek into our timeline where he saw RFK Jr. Then his head blew up.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 0 points 1 day ago

The Mandela Effect is the weirdest conspiracy theory to me as that fucker was never off the TV during my teens. No-one would even have heard of him if he’d died before all that.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

Except another guy in the car also died

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Head not worth shooting i guess, even the worm inside it is found dead, probably from suicide.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

The worm is calling the shots here.

I can’t believe two Kennedys were assassinated, and this guy isn’t one of them.

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[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

Nor John Kennedy, who's even more of an asshole.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the worms give him immunity.cant assasinated more than 1 worm at a time.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So if one already had a dose of the previous booster about a year or so ago, would it be helpful to get the same version of the booster again now?

Is the post simply suggesting to people that haven't yet had the booster go get it? Or is it saying you're better off getting the same booster again rather than nothing?

Also, I'm assuming people with the means to go to a different country without these laughing stock "leaders" would be better waiting for those countries to approve and release up-to-date vaccines.

[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My understanding is that because of the type of protien that it encodes for, the immunity imparted by the vaccine decreases over time (because of complex immune system reasons). Never to 0%, but lower. The annual booster not only prepares you better for oncoming strains (in theory, when the vaccine research, development, and approval systems work as expected), but re-ups your immunity to existing strains.

The theory as I understand it is that because viruses like COVID-19 pass through populations in waves, your body is developing a very strong short-term immunity to neutralize any immediate "rebound" waves (imagine a wave bouncing off the side of a pool, yes, viruses move through populations like that). It then maintains a weaker, long-term response. By fooling your immune system into thinking you have COVID-19 right now, the vaccine bumps your body ino "short-term" response mode, so your best possible immune response is at the ready if the real thing shows up.

I am not an epidimeologist, but I read a lot of their work from 2020-2023. I might have details wrong, but if it's been >6mo since you've had a booster, you would probably benefit from getting another one.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Virus waves are exacerbated by holiday schedules. First school starts and kids are a massive disease vector. Then Thanksgiving comes and people spread it to their families and bring it back home. Then it has a month to spread and then Christmas comes.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

also people staying in doors during cold weather increases the infeciton rate.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

yea your memory b-cells are the one that maintains at a low levels of antibodies against certain disease, it is one of the reasons measles is dangerous they damage the dendritic cells which presents antigens to b-cells so your bascially partially immunosuppressed, besides the acute infection.

LPT: Go get a shot, now.

Saw the US flag, read it without the "a"

[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I skipped my C-19 shot. The Flu shot I still get. There is a reason the C-19 shots recommendations have changed.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good, I hope you get COVID and suffer its consequences.

[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Well, I received the shot and booster prior to skipping all future shots. I did get C-19 like about 3yrs after my booster. It was as expected body sore and similar to flu symptoms.

Since I don’t regularly interact with public by not leaving home. I am not worried about it, but thanks for believing in me.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the reason is that RFK Jr. is a hack.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

🇨🇦 we approved 'em here. And they're being made her now, too.

I'd say come visit in October, but maybe don't fly in those big aluminum petri dishes!

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[–] mmmac@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Don't chastise me as I am genuinely curious -- I saw this clip on Huberman lab where the director of the NIH said that the covid vaccine was net more harmful that good for younger men. Is this not the case?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKu6Sv7hhKW/

[–] yumpsuit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Trump’s health department is stacked with people hostile to the idea of public health. The People’s CDC, an anti-COVID advocacy organization, had this to say about NIH Director Bhattacharya in March prior to his confirmation:

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is a health economist with a medical degree but no further medical training or practice. He endorsed and promoted mass COVID-19 infections to pursue an impossible to achieve infection-driven herd immunity. His policies such as mass infections relying on natural immunity would have led to even more illness, Long COVID, and deaths across the US. His extraordinarily wrong views on the pandemic include predicting, even late in 2020, that US COVID deaths would not reach 50,000, and assuring Floridians in mid-2021 that enough had been vaccinated – though far more have died since then. Videos from as recent as 2024 continue to show him advocating ineffective treatments for COVID-19 such as ivermectin, opposing layered protections against COVID-19, and belittling the value of important tools such as masking and vaccines.

Instead of focusing on advancing the medical sciences, Bhattacharya wants to intertwine politics and policies at NIH and prioritize funding based on academic freedom instead of innovative and impactful medical and health sciences research. If confirmed as the director of NIH, he will continue to downplay the seriousness of COVID-19 and potentially other infectious diseases, and steer NIH towards investment in ineffective treatments for diseases such as focusing on seroprevalence studies. Ultimately, this will harm and reverse the already monumental discoveries at NIH. He will likely assist Secretary Kennedy’s current efforts to delay and even prevent the development of effective therapeutics for infectious diseases, including COVID-19 – and for Long COVID. Finally, there is no reason to think he will fight this administration’s attacks on NIH staffing and cuts in research funding.

[–] mmmac@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

Ahh there it is, I wasn't aware of this, thanks!

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

i wouldnt trust info coming from someone like trumps admin, who is stuffed with his lackeys. especially someone lIKE RFK jr who doesnt believe in vaccines.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Gonna be hard for some people to remember that .gov sites are compromised sources now.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tldr: us gov is no longer reliable for basically anything good, and can be now considered as explicitly and actively hostile to us all

[–] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The vaccine has a risk of causing heart complications. It should be monitored. COVID has a much higher risk of heart complications.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9653149/

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[–] thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would suggest speaking with a doctor you trust who also knows your medical history, if you are indeed a young man.

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[–] remon@ani.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, that's still a thing?

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I'm a a solid blue state and the general consensus is no one even cares anymore.

[–] jimrob4@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Last night I was hanging out with a few friends and they all started going in on "the clot shot" and Fauci making money off it and blah blah blah ugh

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Waiting for the "sounds like you need new friends" joke, but that's really a bummer. It's difficult to make friends and connect with people as it is, and then this shit polarizes us and makes what used to be a fairly private stance something that would rarely, if ever, come up in friendly conversation. Hopefully they aren't raging Nazis or anything...

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[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can someone from the US take a trip to Canada specifically to get vaccines? I have lupus and I really don't wanna die from covid. I live in an area where people are ride or die Trumpers and don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At the rate that things are devolving, if you have the means, you may consider emigrating somewhere else. And maybe not Canada because we'll probably be invaded by your country in the following years, or months.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I don't have the means to completely leave. I wish I did

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don’t say stupid shit like that.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why not? I'm not willing to provide links for everything I'll list, so do what you want with it.

Democracy has failed in the US. They have a king with a dictatorship. They ignore their own laws. They kidnap law abiding citizens, on the streets, at work, in the schools, and send them into concentration camps. They kidnap people from other countries at the border. They invade their own cities with the military. They are sending a flotilla to Venezuela. They are renaming the Department of Defence to the Department of War. They have openly discussed invading Mexico. They have mentioned in the past that Canada should be part of the US. Maine's Senator sent an open letter to Western Canada and invited them to join the US, like, a week ago.

All this shit is normalized in the US. They just do it little by little and so far people don't react. They always say "Trump is joking" and "this will not happen" but it ends up happening every time.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Everyone knows that Mecha Mark Carney would rise up and repel an American invasion with extreme prejudice

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[–] thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m not sure what the data is for children, but after speaking with my doctor (who has gotten vaccinated multiple times) says they don’t believe the vaccination will be very effective this year since there is no clear data on its effectiveness. They basically said it’s probably not worth it. They highly suggested the flu vaccine though. Take that info for what you will. I’m not sure what I’m doing yet.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I read that it's still effective because the latest version is an ofspin of one strand compatible with the vaccine.

[–] Deathgl0be@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How soon before we get vaccinations with thoughts and prayers ?

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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Who still cares about COVID 19

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