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Don't chastise me as I am genuinely curious -- I saw this clip on Huberman lab where the director of the NIH said that the covid vaccine was net more harmful that good for younger men. Is this not the case?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKu6Sv7hhKW/
i wouldnt trust info coming from someone like trumps admin, who is stuffed with his lackeys. especially someone lIKE RFK jr who doesnt believe in vaccines.
Gonna be hard for some people to remember that .gov sites are compromised sources now.
The NIH director was appointed by Trump, which came with a pretty strong anti-mask, anti-vaxx, and general 'covid was a hoax' sort of baggage, so he is unfortunately not that credible.
There is a study that correlates to the ages he specifies, but the conclusion is that the risks inflicted by the vaccine were still lower than the risks of COVID itself even for that age group, but no matter how they sliced it the risks either way for the age group was minimal, neither the vaccinne nor COVID were too risky overall. Pre-vaccine chicken pox was deadlier to kids than COVID was to that age group, and we didn't consider that to be particularly risky, mostly worth vaccinating due to heading off the chances for shingles later.
Gotcha thanks for the info, yeah I don't follow politics too much so was unaware the director was appointed by trump and came in with that baggage.
Wish Huberman had specified that in the caption
That's another one I don't understand. In my country at least when I grew up (born 2001) most kids didn't get chickenpox vaccines. I didn't have one and actually caught the virus. I think I even had a scar from it. I know someone about 4 years younger than me who also is scarred from it. Not sure if they started giving it out now. I certainly hope so.
I'm old enough that the vaccine was unavailable, so I got the illness and at least one scar, but my kid was vaccinated and all my peers' kids are vaccinated so they just won't know what it's like.
Seems like some countries think it's better to keep it around to keep previously sickened people exposed to keep their immune system active to mitigate shingles, but seems like the data in the 'vaccinate most of the kids' countries have shown that this doesn't actually matter, so we might see more countries embrace vaccinating against it.
Trump’s health department is stacked with people hostile to the idea of public health. The People’s CDC, an anti-COVID advocacy organization, had this to say about NIH Director Bhattacharya in March prior to his confirmation:
Are they anti-covid advocacy, or anti covid-advocacy? I'm pretty sure it's the former from context but I'm still kind of unsure.
Both, I suppose. They go in on both anti-virus action and opposing pro-infection actors.
In their words, "The People’s CDC is a coalition of public health practitioners, scientists, healthcare workers, educators, advocates and people from all walks of life working to reduce the harmful impacts of COVID-19."
Ahh there it is, I wasn't aware of this, thanks!
Tldr: us gov is no longer reliable for basically anything good, and can be now considered as explicitly and actively hostile to us all
The vaccine has a risk of causing heart complications. It should be monitored. COVID has a much higher risk of heart complications.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9653149/
The paper recognizes a 0.004% increase in mild short term myocarditis, with about a 0.05% decrease in hospitalization, 0.014% decrease in intensive care needs, and a 0.0006% decreased chance of death from COVID.
Of course, all this suggests that in that age range, it's messing with all very low percentages, so it's pretty much a wash whether they vaccinate or not, statistically speaking. But the vaccine risk is not 'much higher' and the severity of the risk is generally low, and seemingly still technically lower risk than COVID itself, but the risk for any of it is kind of down in the noise.
I would suggest speaking with a doctor you trust who also knows your medical history, if you are indeed a young man.
Young in spirit not age lol, was just curious