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[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 47 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Its probably more difficult to block multiple mastodon instances than the single bluesky site.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 63 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

The problem isn't that the state is blocking it; its that they threatened to impose a $10,000 fine for each user who can access the site without first proving their age.

You can afford that risk if you live outside the US. Not if you're a US corporation

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 28 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

If a minor hosted their own instance for friends, would the state fine them $10,000/pop?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Something I do wonder about these laws: could a person self-hosting a private fedi instance that only they have an account on, argue that they meet age verification requirements by virtue of personally knowing the age of the only user? Or at that point would the whole network of federated servers count as the "platform" rather than the instance?

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip -4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 12 points 14 hours ago

this doesn't kill the fediverse. mississippi can't do shit to you if you aren't in mississippi unless the state you're in agrees to cooperate with them. and that's only after they subpoena your hosting provider, which might not even cooperate with them at all if they are outside US jurisdiction. and if you go through cloudflare? that's another subpeona from a corporation that doesn't like revealing information about their users and has gone to federal court on many occasions to fight both state and federal governments.

any state that doesn't have one of these laws on the books is unlikely to decide to extradite you for something that isn't illegal where you live, especially since it's not a criminal charge.

[–] sep@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I assume the hoster would know the age of his friends? Or is the law more spesific in how the verification must happen.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 25 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Also, a detail but:

https://www.pcmag.com/news/supreme-court-lets-mississippi-age-verification-law-go-into-effect-for

It's considered likely to be unconstitutional.

The ruling now allows Mississippi to enforce its social media law while case continues in the lower court. In the ruling, Kavanaugh also cited several district court rulings opposing similar age-verification laws, concluding that "the Mississippi law is likely unconstitutional."

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 18 points 15 hours ago

Don't think the constitution has mattered for a while, mate.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

Didn't SCOTUS recently uphold one of these age verification laws?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 30 minutes ago

For Porn sites only

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Does this law apply to all social media/social media-type sites, or only social media websites under the umbrella of the NetChoice group?

The articles on this are all frustratingly vague. Bluesky is not under NetChoice so I assume all social media sites will eventually be blocking MS IPs?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 18 points 17 hours ago

My understanding is that it applies to every site which hosts any NSFW content, whether or not minors can access it

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

So I'm curious. If this law is in play in Mississippi now, are Mississippians being prompted for their ID on Discord, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit etc? I would check myself but my VPN doesn't have a Mississippi server.

If not, and they're not bothering, then why is Bluesky reacting like this specifically?

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Bluesky likely doesn't want to deal with the hassle and the percentage of users from the state that use it is so minimal they just don't view it as worthwhile.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I suppose it's more me being curious about why the bigger-boys aren't using age-ID there.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 9 points 14 hours ago

the "bigger-boys", as you put it, are currently fighting it together on appeal in a lawsuit. once the appeal is finished, it will probably head to the supreme court, where Kavanaugh has said it will likely be found unconstitutional.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago

They can afford the fines?

[–] percent@infosec.pub 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I kinda wish the big companies would do the same and just block the states that pass these laws. Like, the state just loses access to a big chunk of the internet as soon as the bill passes, prompting an uproar and a learning opportunity for those lawmakers.

Obviously that's probably unrealistic, but I can dream 🙂

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago

PornHub blocked us in Florida.

[–] Kintarian@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

I’m about ready to cancel my internet and buy a book. Maybe even go outside.

[–] LemUser@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

Didn't some woman shoot up Google headquarters because of some age verification process on YouTube where she specifically made makeup videos geared toward children and lost all her revenue or subscribers?