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[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 170 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Jesus fucking Christ, is Windows just 100% vibe coded now? How do those fuckups keep happening? It's honestly unbelievable...

I'm so glad I decided to move away from it - I still have no idea what I'm doing in Linux, but then again I never had a lot of idea about what I'm doing in Windows either, so it's all good :)

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 80 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You might not yet always know what you're doing to your Linux install...
But you can never really what the fuck Microsoft is gonna do to your windows install.

That's without even getting into whether or not Microsoft knows what they're doing themselves.

[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 26 points 4 days ago

Amen to that.

I settled on Manjaro for now because it's super nice and easy to use - I heard it had some issues with updates on the past, but for the last year or so it's been really nice for me, so I'll wait until the first screwup before distro-hopping somewhere else :)

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[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Microsoft is literally requiring its devs to use AI to write parts of Windows

[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

...and it shows. God damn it shows, almost every week it seems, with yet another fuckup.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Enter your pin to unlock keepass. Don't worry, I'll make it pop up UNDER all the other windows when you want to unlock it. Also no, we still have a stock plain icon for windows hello in windows 11.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 52 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

As the article mentions, it's because Microsoft cut down their quality control to the point where they're just sending stuff out then reacting when people report what breaks. Sure they have their "insider" builds but that program isn't working very well to catch these issues that find their way into release builds.

Back in the day they had a massive testing lab and a big team of testers. Then they fired them all just over a decade ago. We can thank Satya Nadella I guess. He's more of a line-go-up man than a good quality products person.

[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

It's completely insane to me that businesses deal with it without suing their butts off. I can understand individual customers, they tend to be docile, but how did all this not cause massive losses to a litigious company yet?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Enterprise lags behind Home and Pro. Consumers are QA for Enterprise.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

One lesson they took from RedHat, is it not?

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is what happens when corporations become so large, their product so ubiquitous, and have so many customers that they don't need to worry about actual quality or service.

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 14 points 4 days ago

At work win 11 has already messed up twice. Once in an image and it black screened. As in it stopped working and no blue screen just black.

Its pretty bad. At least win 10 kept working.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 4 days ago

thier new thing is focousing on thier money-hemmorhaging AI.

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[–] skulkbane@lemmy.world 133 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I got a survey question from windows feedbackhub on my work computer yesterday, asking if i would recommend windows. And i thought fine ill answer this seriously with real reasons why.

I wrote a long explanation from my own experiences helping people and using it, half way through i shit you not, the feedbackhub froze and crashed.

[–] Gerblat@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It probably detected a certain number of flagged words or phrases and knew it was gonna be really negative feedback and “crashed”

[–] skulkbane@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It wasn't even that negative.

Would you recommend windows to family and friends?

No, 90% of those i help (ages 10-70) with computers and tech dont need a computer, they can use their phone for everything. A phone can pay bills, contact friends and family even print documents or pictures just fine and they have everything they need and want.

The only reason someone even wants a PC today is to play games or they need it for work and in those cases i usually don't need to recommend them an os because they probably don't have any other options, because they are comfortable windows or mac.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just put “[Object object]” in one of the survey fields when I don’t like the company.

[–] ramius345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You have learned the lesson. The lesson to Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C (select all and copy) your text into a separate document elsewhere before hitting send. In fact you should be doing that periodically anyway because browsers and browser-based apps are more likely than they should be to stop working unexpectedly.

And if the form disallows this action you'll have to get creative with the browser tools to modify the page that way instead.

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I don't usually leave feedback. I have done it maybe six times when I've been really pissed. In two of those times I've gotten "server error" or similar after writing a long rant and pressing "send"

Seems to be a really important and respected part of any service.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago (3 children)
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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Dunno why you're being downvoted, that there was a solid reference.

[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

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[–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Pogbably because it looks like they're spamming. someone linked the thing they're referencing and I'm back to switch my vote because now I get it and its funny.

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[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 41 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I’m so glad I switched to Linux when I did (a couple months ago). I was dual booting for a bit but two weeks ago I removed my windows partition. Feels good to be free.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What distro, and how do you like it compared to windows so far? (And I’m assuming you’re not using Arch since you didn’t say anything)

[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I distro hopped a bit but landed on CachyOS, which is arch-based (btw) but a lot more straightforward to install and has a faster kernel supposedly. It’s been fantastic, I much prefer it to windows. Still getting used to the occasional hiccup but it’s worth it. I was never too attached to windows anyway. I’m currently running KDE Plasma but I want to try out Hyprland or something similar. It seems really cool. I have to look into how to download it though.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 35 points 4 days ago

"Thanks to Microsoft's legendary approach to quality control, installing Windows patches these days is getting to be less like Russian Roulette and more like accidentally stepping on a rake left in the grass."

Oooof!

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thanks to Microsoft's legendary approach to quality control, installing Windows patches these days is getting to be less like Russian Roulette and more like accidentally stepping on a rake left in the grass.

I like the second metaphor:

The whole neighborhood is going to hear you swearing and shouting 🤬

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 days ago (15 children)

How does Microsoft regularly. Was up this badly?

Do all companies (Apple/linux) do it to but we don’t hear about it because of the smaller user base or is Microsoft literally this incompetent?

If they are, why can they fix the root issue?

The is a genuine question that I don’t have the answer to.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Apple's base is big enough where if a problem like this happens, it's a big deal. Apple has the benefit of controlling both hardware and software.

With Linux, being open source helps it out since so many people can test and chime in.

[–] UnderFreyja@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Exactly, plus you can decide if you want to be on a stable distro versus one where you get to test new features / get all the updates at the cost of stability.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 8 points 4 days ago

Your distro can also decide what version to be on for each package. Slackware regularly rolls back a broken package until upstream fixes it.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 19 points 4 days ago

MacOS only has ~10-15% market share (depending on which stats you read) so something breaking in MacOS has much less impact compared to Windows. Apple also control the hardware, so there's fewer things that can go wrong.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 11 points 4 days ago

Microsoft stopped trying a long time ago. The benefits of having a monopoly. Windows would have to cease functioning entirely for them to lose their position.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The is a genuine question that I don’t have the answer to.

I would say that because nobody can muster the consensus on any real policy. There's plenty of legacy, with many different people and teams responsible, knowledge lost and so on.

And then this requires some sort of unified vision. Despite, eh, all the downsides, Apple can do that. MS can't.

They'd honestly have to make a separate "neowin" subsystem with new GUI and everything, and make win32 and win64 and all the old tooling optional and parallel. Because their approach to backward compatibility means keeping everything around. They can't fix the mess maintaining that.

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[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 15 points 4 days ago

🐧🐧🐧

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Glad I ditched Windows entirely on my personal devices and went to Linux. No ragrets. Games still work wonderfully.

Any absolutely required usage of Windows on a personal device is provided by a VM running a stripped-down version of W10 LTSC, activated by massgrave scripts.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

oh, I installed Debian Trixie yesterday ! having a little trouble with my Wacom tablet, which wasn't a problem in Fedora a few years ago... But apart from that it's 👌🏼

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Just Debian things give it another 5 years and you will be good to go!

The cost of stability lol

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think, on a abstract level, the dynamic between a companies relationship to code is comparable to genetics in biology. In that sense, Vibe Coding is the last generation in a chain of inbreeding and Microsoft are the Hapsburgs. There will be a day where they succumb to their lack of quality control.

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