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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am using three drives on that list. Uninstalled KB5063878 and blocked updates for over a month.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm using several of them too, but the update refuses to uninstall. Oh well, fingers crossed eh? Thanks Microsoft.

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[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 49 points 3 days ago (10 children)

God damn, after ~20 years of being off Windows reading about problem after problem on each and every update is exhausting.

How do you all (Windows users) deal with this shit?

[–] sykaster@feddit.nl 24 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I've never had an issue of this gravity on Windows. I use Linux and it has its issues as well. Stability is not why I use Linux lmao

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 9 points 3 days ago

Perhaps not stability, but certainly the ability to understand a problem and fix things is why I use Linux. On Windows or MacOS you just get "Oops, something unexpected happened", or if youre lucky "Error -2847".

On linux you can read the journalctl or have a poke in /var/log/ and actually find an answer that's more helpful than "reinstall the operating system / program"

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[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Wait 3 weeks before applying updates and let other people be the guinea pigs. It's usually enough time for things like this to be caught and withdrawn by MS.

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same way as I do on Linux. There was a post a few weeks back about an Arch update breaking vlc if you don't manually install a new optional dependency after an update split the package.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Arch has always broke. Arch will always break.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Whatever doesn’t break makes us stronger (at using the Archwiki)

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Most people don't have this issue. You are only reading about the less than 1%. Per usual, everything posted her is overblown and the linux trolls feed on it.

[–] wholeofthemoon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Because I haven't had these issues in 20+ years? 🤡

[–] HalifaxJones@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Haven’t updated to windows 11 yet and probably won’t. Just gonna wait until I can afford a new PC then learn how to install Linux

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 4 points 3 days ago

By not using newest microsoft stuff. I'm always few years late to their next windows.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

This is the first Windows update that has significantly altered how my daily driver laptop works (read: for the worse).

It's too inconvenient to use a Windows computer anymore. I'm switching to Linux

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

Just vibecoding a kernel module, nothing out of the ordinary at Microsoft.

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 31 points 3 days ago

Ouch. Glad I don't run Windows 11...

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I was able to roll-back this update. But my computer is still running Windows. Help!

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Start looking into desktop environments, everyones quick to suggest distros, but de imo is more what matters day to day, most distros just work and will help you grab the same stuff in different background ways and/or with different terminal commands.

They should all have de options or have community alternatives of them that come with a certain de like kde or gnome.

Close to windows, minimal customization (still more than default windows

Cinnamon

Iphone + cydia, opinionated base experience with extensions that can completely change the look and add stuff like panels/dock

gnome + extension store

Windows but ultra customizable, tons of settings and directly customizable from the ui itself by right clicking

kde plasma

Keyboard user, hand always on it, like shortcuts and code editor based customization with documentation

hyprland

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Solid advice!

And remember that "DE hopping" is much easier than distro hopping, as you can install multiple and try them out without reinstalling your system.

Personally I'm a shill for Plasma, as I think that their motto "simple by default, powerful when needed" is very true. Out of the box, you get a grandma-ready UX that's pretty intuitive to any Windows or Mac user, but once you start to dig in there's so many "power user" features. Now every time I'm on a different system I instantly miss all the little QoL that I never even think about, and almost everything is neatly packaged in the system settings or context menus, without having to install extensions or set up a dozen different components

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[–] singletona@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Oh look a whole new reason to avoid windows 11.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've read in another article that NG Lv 1 means that the drive is recoverable and NG Lv 2 that the drive is unrecoverable.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I remember when Linux Update did this . . . oh wait, no I don't.

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think I do but I'm not sure. I seem to remember some years back when a kernel version was released and due to a bug on either a driver or a filesystem, as soon as you started writing it would override the partition table or something like that

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[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

*Glares at work computer

WELL...? WE'RE WAITING.gif

[–] mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This Post was the final straw for me. Just spent the afternoon setting up Linux Mint Mate and it's working well so far!

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I so much want to, but the programs I run are partly windows only. I don't know how to switch yet. Next to that, I tried Linux once but was unable to reach netwerk drives from my NAS. I tried everything, none of the solutions I found actually worked. I seem to have a curse running into issues no one else had. Struggling my whole life with that. Today I spent the entire day fixing Kodi, which suddenly stopped working. None of the solutions on internet worked. I managed to fix it my own way, eventually. Just to play a video without losing my "videos watched".

MS is working hard to force me though. I'm almost as far as to say goodbye to apps I've used my whole life. Like Directory Opus for example.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Again, why are people paying money for this bullshit?

This is just normal and on par for Microsoft. When was the last time they didn't fix a security issue because they didn't wanted the bad publicity, causing the US government to be hacked?

Oohh, we will never do it again, pinky promise!

Microsoft's evil but oh my fucking god, they're so incompetent that they can't even be evil without fucking shit up

Install Linux already,.be done with the nonsense

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[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago

Welp, Windows 11 is going to make me quit my sysadmin job of 15+ years, after all. I already refuse to use it at home but have no options at work. Bet dollars to donuts this was some sort of vibe coder AI fuck up we'll never be able to confirm.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

All of my computers are working just fine.

[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Same, thankfully 🫣

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[–] LongboardingLad@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

This was the push I needed to get off Windows completely. Some update broke Bluetooth connectivity. It's penguins all the way down for me now.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand. writing large amount of data at once breaks nand controller? and how that's an os issue?

[–] darksiderbun@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe has something to do with making assumptions about how the nand controller is going to allocate things across superpages but that is a stupid random guess and also I have no idea why it’s an OS issue but boy do they keep finding ways

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

os updates write large amount of data to disk at once. especially a highly bloated os like modern windows. whatever the trigger, it's still faulty nand controller. you can very well cooy a 20G file and see disk is corrupted.

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[–] kayohtie@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My assumption was it had something to do with the drivers for the controller, and the update flooding it faster than it could take data and not caching everything it couldn't cram into controller DRAM, causing parts to just get dropped wholesale.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this 100% an OS issue, or a hardware issue just being made apparent by the OS doing something weird?

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most likely an hardware issue, ZFS has seen similar types of corruption with certain drives under normal operation.

https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/discussions/14793

That makes sense.

While windows doing a bunch of IO is silly and probably could be more efficient, it sounds like the blame is the SSD controllers crapping out when asked to do exactly what they advertise they are supposed to do (high throughput IO).

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Sounds like shit drives are half of the problem?

[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Even though switching my laptop to Linux was a bit of a pain, especially for other family members, i didn’t regret it at all before. This just makes it even more reassuring as the right move.

Even the programs I had that rely on windoze I just run in wine or in a small vm.

If you can switch, do it!

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

And the worst part is even if it succeeds you're still running Windows.

[–] kayohtie@pawb.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haven't had disk issues, am running a 980 Pro SSD currently, but I've definitely noticed other weirdness that sure feels more like that? Half-Life crashing repeatedly in map loads sometimes succeeding fine and other times not. Firefox broke wholesale until I reinstalled it and even then had to do a refresh to fully solve it. I haven't seen anything else weird thankfully but this definitely has me concerned and glad I'm backing up with a very long rolling period just in case. Gonna uninstall this update for sure.

[–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Just a heads up in case you haven't updated firmware on your 980. I wasn't aware of the problem and lost my c drive a few months back.

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago

In the article from yesterday, this was reported by one guy in Japan

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