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Many of the cruise-friendly Caribbean countries have camouflage as their military uniform and so it's illegal to wear it in these countries.

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[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 207 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Let’s be real here. You shouldn’t bring camo with you pretty much anywhere besides hunting.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 123 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I've never understood The South and the military wankfest.

If anything, hunting is one of the worst places to wear camo

Hmm. Everyone around me has guns and wants to shoot a large mammal. I know! I'll blend into the background so that I only stand out when I move!

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 6 days ago (14 children)

That's why you are required almost everywhere to have some amount of hunter orange on. This makes you visible to humans who can see the color but still not visible to animals who cannot see that tone of orange.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Why isn't the orange striped like tigers?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because hunting in or near trees is different than the long grass tigers hunt in. That is why leopards and jaguars have spots instead of stripes.

Orange camouflage is like the common green camouflage pattern but all oranges or with orange mixed in.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Never seen orange mixed in, only solid which prompted my question.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Heres an example.

collapsed inline mediacamo pattern with oranges and yellows in place of shades of green

Solid orange wouldn't be camo...

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because it speaks to what camouflage is actually for.

This isn't Metal Gear Solid 3 where you put on the right shit and detection radiuses drop and you can sprint past a guard. Camouflage is about blending in with your background just enough that it buys you more time on the approach or makes it harder to spot you at a distance.

Tigers (orange and white or orange and black stripes) are very much meant to blend into tall grass. They sit in the grass waiting for their prey and their coloring tends to match-ish the tall grass against orange soil and sky of places like the Serengeti.

So how does that work with military camo and the like? Uhm... The effectiveness varies drastically but can best be seen with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Woodland#/media/File:BDUs-forest.jpg. Against the dirt road they stick out like a sore thumb. Against the leafy foliage? Not horrible and you could very much imagine that buying a few meters when approaching in a dense jungle. But if there are too many trees or the foliage is too green (as in that picture), the brown bits stick out a LOT.

Mostly the idea of these camouflage patterns are to minimize detection from the air and to help people hide when they are laying in wait. Which... is why snipers and the like don't rely on it. They bring tarps that better match the pattern of what they are going to lay against or wear ghillie suits that are basically mesh nets that they can stick leaves and twigs or just appropriately colored fabric into. Hell, one of the "rites of passage" of sniper schools and the like is to literally roll around in the mud in a uniform because that is going to be MUCH more effective than whatever made in china fabric the BDUs are made of. It just loses the ease of distinguishing one side from the other.

Which is why the competent cosplaying hunters don't really rely on their clothes to hide them while they are walking around and just bring a tarp to hide under while waiting in a blind. Because outside of VERY specific approaches... they are still going to stick out like a sore thumb. ESPECIALLY if they are close enough to take a shot against a deer in a dense forest.

Which gets back to the original question. Why is "blaze orange camouflage not tiger striped": Because it is a cosplay wank fantasy that lets stores jack up the prices over just buying a high vis vest that cyclists use. And the pattern genuinely does not matter because none of those colors match when you are laying down and hiding, let alone trudging along hunting trails.

[–] johsny@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 8 points 5 days ago

Yeah, dude's just making shit up or regurgitating an ai hallucination. Orange tiger stripes aren't blending in with orange dirt either. The herbivores that are a tiger's prey are reg/green colorblind, which means the orange tiger blends in with the green grasses because the animals can't distinguish between those colors well.

The rest of the comment isn't much better. From claiming that a ghillie suit isn't camouflage (it is). To claiming that a solid color is better camouflage than a camouflage with a decent disruptive pattern. There is good camo and bad camo out there, but Nuxcom_90penis doesn't seem like the type to see subtly in anything. That's why I'm up voting you and agreeing with your sentiment here instead of kicking that toxic hornet's nest.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (5 children)

That depends on what you're hunting. Whitetail deer? The deer use scent and hearing much more than visual. Birds? They can see more colors than us and camouflage is important.

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[–] deur@feddit.nl 9 points 6 days ago

Usually people wear blaze orange on top of camo.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago

Not hunting either. High viz unless you want to get shot.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I mean it's kind of a fun pattern in streetwear. I like mashing it up with queer or androgynous stuff 🤷‍♂️

Edit: can anyone tell me why I'm being downvoted? I don't really care but it's clear some people really strongly disagree with me and I'm not entirely sure why...

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[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You shouldn't get on a cruise ever

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I am aware of the chicanery cruise lines get up to, as well as the depravity that is commonplace on many American cruise lines. Oh, and emissions.

Apart from that, why should I avoid them?

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

What more reasons do you need lmao.

Also all of the shit goes into the water iirc

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough on that first point; not sure what the se one one means tho

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My phone is borked and i didn't reread, sorry. I meant that all of the piss and shit just goes in to the water

[–] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Someone better tell the billions of sea life to stop pissing and shitting in the water.

Of all the reasons not to use a cruise, this is not one of them.

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[–] figjam@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They suck.

Also explosive diarrhea

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Pretty sure explosive diarrhoea is the opposite of sucking

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[–] espentan@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but, well, they wouldn't see me if I were to wear camouflage, so it would be a non-issue. /s

[–] Bonus@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

<Proceeds to dress as The Sea>

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[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh absolutely. I was in one of the countries on that list. Only the rebels and army wore camouflage, and the police would demand you take it off or be arrested. They were serious, the war was not that long ago. It doesn’t matter if you have no other clothes, according to a local they’ll make a tourist go naked rather than allow camouflage.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 18 points 5 days ago

It doesn’t matter if you have no other clothes

I'm going to report you to the fashion police.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Point of order, wearing camo pattern on anything other than military/hunting attire just looks bad.

If you’re on a cruise and you want your clothes to look busy, why not try a floral print?

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

I'm going to call it that now, and probably seem really clever and funny at the next luau-themed party I attend. Then people will like me.

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Camo, generally on military styled clothes, is a super fun print in street wear. I really like puting it together with androgynous or queer looking stuff 🤷‍♂️

Edit: can anyone tell me why I'm being downvoted? I don't really care but it's clear some people really strongly disagree with me and I'm not entirely sure why...

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[–] Ugurcan@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

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How about Camo Bermuda, is that part of their military as well?

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 10 points 5 days ago

Can we do this in america please

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 6 days ago

Tbf, if you're on a cruise ship and it docks at Zimbabwe, then worse mistakes have been made than your choice of outfit.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

TIL you shouldn't bring camouflage ~~on a cruise~~ to any place in which you do not need to be concealed.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

In my experience you don’t even need camo to blend in. I’m a self-proclaimed military autist and my entire wardrobe is earth tones. That alone is enough to startle people on the trails when they’re not looking ahead and I suddenly appear in front of them on my bike. Camo obviously helps, but it’s not about perfectly blending in - it’s about not standing out. When I spot people in the woods it’s always because of a pale face or hands, or some brightly colored or white piece of clothing. Black stands out a lot too, but anything gray, brown, or green usually disappears into the background unless you’re staring right at it.

[–] SculptusPoe@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Where are those island guys hiding that they need camo as a uniform? They should wear tan pants and blue shirts so they blend in with the beach and horizon.

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