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[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 229 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Honestly, good on him.

More people should do the same.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 112 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

He took a principled stance when he left Spotify too, after they paid hundreds of millions for Joe Rogan's podcast.

Edit: Disappointingly, it turns out he went back to Spotify after a couple of years.

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 71 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure his label put his stuff back on there, despite his wishes. I seen to remember a need article at the time describing his reaction as "disappointed". Not all of his stuff is back on there, but I guess the stuff he didn't have full control over is.

Personally, I don't listen to Joe Rogan, but I do listen to Neil Young. And Spotify is the way I typically listen to anything since they killed the SD Card on most mobile phones. So it hurt me, and I assume it hurts anyone who would want to listen to both and only gets the option of Joe Rogan. So I think having access to media is better, but I'm not the artist and I get taking a moral stance.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think the aim is to get people to switch to a more ethical streaming service, if they want to stream music. Spotify isn't the only option.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you're into self hosting (or have a friend who is), I've found Navidrome (music hosting) and Substeamer app to be great open source alternatives.

[–] sean_lemmy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Substreamer appears to be free but not open source

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[–] takenaps@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yo fyi I recently dropped spotify for Tidal & loving it

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[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago

Money > all.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 26 points 6 days ago

I quit 10yrs ago. I am almost 70. If this old fart can do it. So can you.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The way people turned up their nose at the Fediverse when the Muskening happened to Twitter was heartbreaking. I knew social media was an addiction but when you find out your dealer is an absolute monster how do you not go looking for a new supplier?

But they all discarded Mastodon et al as cringe and teduoust. Like, the way even trans women influencers stayed on Twitter blew my mind. When bluesky got off the ground there was finally some migration, but not enough.

It really showed me how many of the "anti-capitalist" and the "anarchism" and "mutual aid" people were all just talk. The mutual-aid volunteer-based platform exists and you stuck with the fascist because it was easy and you're too cool for the nerd shit.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 72 points 6 days ago (2 children)

ted nugent decided to use facebook even more for the same reason

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

Oh, is Ted having trouble finding jailbait these days?

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well, it's not like Ted Nugent is writing any new music. He probably doesn't have anything better to do anyway.

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[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 6 days ago (1 children)

On the one hand, that's good, but on the other hand, Meta crossed my line over eight years ago, and I'm woefully disappointed that he was using it until this point.

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I guess, but you will lead a lonely life if you can't find common struggle with people in different scenarios than our own. We can easily lose our soul with these endless purity tests — for some reason, Leftists, progressives, and liberals seem to be constantly on the lookout for the next Jesus Christ, who will just simply energize voters by consequence of, I dunno, magic or some shit.

Neil Young is still a working musician who needs to get his face and music in front of as wide and as general of an audience as possible — why wouldn't they be where people are? That's what makes this stand so important. Homie needs Facebook and Insta and still said no.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago

I think that attitude is a trap, and what got us into this mess in the first place. If more people did what Young did, these platforms wouldn't have the power (which we give them) to unleash as much harm on the world. Your suggestion implies that we should all wait for others to move first. That's the definition of paralysis.

And with a net worth the size of Young's, it's simply not true to say he "needs" to use those platforms, except in the more privileged misuse of the word. They're luxury items for him.

[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago

Neil Young and Dolly Parton

Role models we need but don't deserve

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 45 points 6 days ago (6 children)

What is up with these CAPS? Are we copying the typographic INCONTINENCE of Trump?

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I have noticed people have changed the way they type since around 2016, when trump became president. The amount of people putting "Sad." Behind a sentence is mindblowing. He gave so many people severe brainworms.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Using caps for emphasis in places where formatting options don’t exist is a practice as old as the internet. I remember doing it in the usenet days.

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[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think a lot of that started ironically and then bled over to normal conversations.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

typographic incontinence

This term tickled my linguizzle gland.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

With a single word in caps like that, I read it as yelling the word loudly.

The way it's used here, by a PR conscious intermediary, it comes across more like bitter sarcasm. Like he would not let them release the statement on his behalf unless they yelled Facebook's name when calling them out. It is similar to when a child tells their sibling they aren't allowed to do something, but they say it loudly enough so that everybody understands the parent in the next room hears it too.

Edit to clarify: It is an awesome move to call them out, especially to people who blindly just use Meta's stuff. I read my own comment and worried it would sound like I was calling the Facebook call-out childish itself. It is not. It is a very good thing to fight for a better world, especially when you have the fame or resources that give you a louder voice.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Once again like others said, drop Facebook! Lots of fake profiles, scam ads and miss information.

[–] Logical@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

If Miss Information gets married, does she become Mrs Information?

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I agree but fb is the only place for musicians and show/event notifications, not to mention TONs of non tech savvy small businesses use fb SOLELY for their business info and hours.

Its never going away.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If a business uses Facebook only, I boycott them.

Facebook and Instagram won't let me view any of it anyways, but a business should have principles.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

For real. Like there are braindead-easy services for building a website. There are definitely alternatives.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Business info can be found anywhere through duckduckgo, google or with a phone call! I never knew that musicians use FB, I guess for promotions ? After leaving FB I used YouTube and bandcamp for new music.

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[–] nightlily@leminal.space 6 points 6 days ago

Bands In Town works pretty well for all the bands I follow.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 6 days ago

Once again, Neil Young reminds us that he has a gargantuan penis.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Didn't have to look far for that heart of gold, seems he already had it.

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[–] ThillyGooth@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Good on him. I'm going to make it a point to listen to more Neil Young.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I did the same about 12 ish years ago as it was already becoming a misinformation machine.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Yes! And those wierd psychology experiments they were doing? Gross. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28051930 I left in 2014 passively (stopped daily use) then 2017 stopped any interaction

[–] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

So based 🙏

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

A musician/celebrity with high moral standards and personal integrity, imagine that, huh?

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I feel like more people should know what’s going on. Facebook has done some scummy stuff in the past. Now Zuck is openly defending his AI grooming children. In and of itself it doesn’t make a lot of sense — what’s the upshot for Meta here? But outside the bubble of logic, it sets kids up to be groomed by real predators. It’s unacceptable.

People say the problem is that all the people they know are on Facebook. Two issues: most of those people would forget you exist if you leave Facebook. Also, you’re the reason they’re there. The second reason is that you are literally the product. You being on Facebook is part of the reason those people are, too, so be the change you want to see in the world.

[–] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 days ago

most of those people would forget you exist if you leave Facebook

This is 100% true. I dropped facebook about 10 years back. If I'm not your "friend" without facebook, then you're not really my friend. Getting out of that cesspool of drama and ignorance was one of the best moves I've made.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Neil young is a real one.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 7 points 6 days ago

People over platforms.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I deleted my FB in 09 because of the social expectations and toxicity that came from it. Definitely in my top 10 best decisions of my life.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What the background on AI chatbots with kids?

[–] Im28xwa@lemdro.id 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

next, all mainstream social media

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I prefer „corporate social media“ or „legacy social media“ as a differentiator from the Fediverse. If anything in the Fediverse ever becomes truly mainstream, that’s completely fine

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