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[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (7 children)

How is it that the international war criminal is not getting arrested the very moment he arrives in Alaska?

Same reason our criminal president isn't getting arrested.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Oh, you know why. Elsewhere he’s a war criminal. In Trump’s US, he’s home.

[–] mrmule@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because the United States is not a member of the International Criminal Court (ICC).

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

And also Trump is a Russian asset.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

How is Trump not arrested when he leaves the Untied States?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As awful as he and Trump are, Diplomatic Immunity is legitimately important. Negotiations are impossible with the threat of imprisonment attached to attending.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

No it isn't. These "negotiations" are completely irrelevant, and are just two criminals colluding. They should both be arrested on the spot.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Do you think Hitler would have been granted diplomatic immunity if he visited?

This is not a normal diplomat. This is a person who has committed multiple, documented, crimes against humanity. He is wanted by the International Criminal Court, commonly known as The Hague. If arrested they are likely to hang him until he is dead for the mass suffering he has caused around the world. That is the punishment the Nazis received.

Legitimate negotiations are impossible without inviting Zelensky and yet they have declined to do so. To claim negotiations require diplomatic immunity for Putin, a war criminal, but not to invite Zelensky is ridiculous.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Russian_leaders

Edit: I'm aware America isn't signed up to the ICC, that doesn't change the point though

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If you decide Diplomatic Immunity doesn't exist for one person, then it doesn't exist at all.

England just decided that public speech in support of Palestine is a crime. If a German diplomat stationed in England was opposed to the genocide in Gaza, would it be okay for them to imprison that diplomat?

Laws against pro-Palestinian speech in England have more legal authority than the ICC has in the US.

Yes, Putin is especially evil. He should be taken into custody and made to answer for his crimes. But that shouldn't be done during a Diplomatic mission. If he doesn't leave Russia for anything but Diplomacy, then the civilized world should take the necessary steps to remove him from Russia directly.

I personally am a fan of the complete embargo of countries that are out of control. The US, Russia, and Israel should not be allowed to trade with the civilized world until they step into line.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not exactly how it works though. Diplomatic immunity doesn't have to be extended to anyone you don't wish to extend it to. Ambassadors are regularly made to leave countries when those countries have disagreements. Diplomatic immunity is a courtesy, not a requirement.

If Putin steps foot in most European countries he should, by law, be arrested. There is no diplomatic immunity for him. This only happened because America isn't signed up to the ICC and doesn't give a fuck about basic decency, human rights, or war crimes.

They extended an invite to a war criminal, to supposedly resolve a conflict, without inviting the other side of the conflict. That's not how diplomacy works. That's corruption.

Also, England didn't do shit. The UK did. Westminster. I should know, I live here. And I don't live in England.

And it isn't pro-Palestine speech, it's pro a very specific group. I disagree with it heavily and view it as authoritarian, but let's make sure we're not spreading misinformation here. Support of Palestine Action is banned, not Palestine.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You're largely correct in how Diplomatic Immunity works. The requirement in diplomatic immunity is that it be extended to a diplomat from the time they enter the country under its protection until they leave the country or their country of origin rescends it.

Putin should be denied immunity by the US and forced to leave. But he can't be arrested by the US until he's been expelled from the country and either refuses to leave or returns to the US.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We should have an amendment...a soil amendment made of 100% putin. Then plant a big big fig tree on it. Each fig carefully packaged and fed to anyone who was hungry in Ukraine. Trees are great at filtering the good from the bad in the soil.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

High, how are you!

I'm swell!

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hi swell! I'm good, thanks for asking!

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Oh high good! I got more asking if you need it.

[–] lack@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck yea, Alaska - that's how you welcome Vladdy Bear and Donald Epstein Trump to their romantic interlude

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Putin is gonna try & do Epstein stuff in Alaska?

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For a bunch of 2nd amendment freaks they sure are afraid to use em.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You have to when you live there

[–] marsza@lemmy.cafe 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because he’s there to buy it

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, Trump is there to return it. Russia will bleed it dry and leave it to rot.

[–] marsza@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trading Alaska for the video tape of him pissing on children in a Russian hotel? ;)

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

These two gentlemen of the Mossad would like a word. If you could just step in this room please.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What are the odds we're soon about to find out Trump has given Alaska to Russia?

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Like no joke it's a thing he's floated. Not straight up giving Alaska, but part of it for oil n gas.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Give'm hell! We don't want his kind touching our soil! If we could make him part of soil, that would be preferred.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I bet his body could still provide some nutrients for flowers. I guess he'll be on some regimen of meds at his age, but the toxicity of the mind doesn't necessarily seep into the physical host.

And it would be one way he could still be useful.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

That is a bona fide welcome wagon if there ever was one.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They voted for this and now they complain.

[–] scoobydoo27@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m willing to bet the people there protesting did in fact not vote for it. There were 140k people who did not vote for Trump in Alaska. The electoral college is a joke and makes people believe that everyone in any given state must agree with where the points went.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There were 140k people who did not vote for Trump in Alaska

That is not a lot of people...

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thats a 5th of Alaskas population. Considering a 63% voter turn out thats 30% of all voters. So yeah a pretty sizeable chunk but nowhere near enough.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Which means 4/5ths voted for him. So the majority wanted this.

[–] scoobydoo27@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

How many of those 700k are under the age of 18 and can’t vote? Only 180k voted for trump also, it’s not like it’s some huge majority of voters over who voted for Kamala.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well no it would be 3.5/5ths but yes a majority none the less. So are you saying people shouldnt protest, because they were overruled by a stupid majority?

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Yes but the people protesting may be the ones who didn't vote for this

As everyone knows, your state's EC is determined by unanimous consent.