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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 day ago

Pot-kettle assholes.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 day ago

Pretty bold statement coming from the mouth of fascist America.

[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every accusation is an admission.

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You know just because a fascist says something doesn't make it untrue right? Like always double check what they say but them saying it doesn't make it untrue. The UK is following so much closer behind the US than some people want to admit. Hell half of Europe is still an elections away from ending up with a far right candidate. Now that Trump has been president for a bit I wonder how much of that immediate reaction you saw with Germany will continue.

[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I didn't say it was untrue.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If anything the UK is miles ahead when it comes to fascism

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I would say the are farther ahead in the state controll aspect at the very least.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

We recently had the largest protest in American History

Meanwhile Britain declared organized protests a form of terrorism.

The Revolutionary War was based af

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They did the same with Germany. The US is not able to conduct independent evaluations anymore, as the authorities are more and more driven my political decisions. This makes the content of the evaluations irrelevant, their only purpose now is to use them as political instruments.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean thats true but this is one of the few times they are right. UK and Germany as well are really failing at upholding human rights.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Compared to the US? You are insane if you believe that.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, is the US really the metric you want to use? If anyone is even slightly better, even fractionally, than the US it means they're doing fine? Seems like too low a bar to me.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

As this arcticle is about the US administration condemning the human rights situation in the UK I think it is the metric that makes the most sense here.

Saying "yeah the US administration may be fascists and are conducting this assessment to push right extreme parties in Europe, but that doesn't matter because they are right" is a very dangerous position in my opinion.

Edit: Oh what a coincidence https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/13/world/europe/jd-vance-nigel-farage-reform-uk.html

it's not that it doesn't matter, and no one here holds that position. it's that "UK is fascist" is not any less true just because it's the fascist US that said it

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

No, one should not trust the US by default, but one also shouldn't dismiss the conclusion just because the US is one of the ones who came to it.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one said "Compared to the US." You added that part yourself.

It can be simultaneously true that "The UK and Germany still have a better human rights record than the US" and "The UK and Germany are really failing at upholding human rights."

People in the UK are being arrested for saying that the genocide in Gaza is bad. People in the UK have to submit their ID or a face scan just to log in to Discord or Spotify. Trans rights are being systematically eradicated. Are you going to tell me that those are all good things as far as human rights goes?

The worst part about the dire state of human rights in the US is that it lets everyone else get away with shit like this while saying "Hey, at least we're not those guys." The last thing you should be doing is supporting that kind of excuse.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No you are understanding me wrong. I asked "compared to the US" as this is an article about the US condemning the human rights situation in UK. I think it is dangerous to hop on the train while Shady Vance is meeting with Nigel Farage, it is clear that this is a politically motivated move. People should talk about this right now to support the right extremists in the UK.

I am in no way saying the situation in UK is good, I just think we should be careful when to give attention to what because of who is saying something.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Compared to the US? You are insane if you believe that.

This you? Because I really can't see how you justify inventing something that someone else didn't remotely claim, and then calling them insane for believing the words you put in their mouth.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I asked "compared to the US" as this is an article about the US condemning the human rights situation in UK

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, you're still incapable of understanding that you're acting like an asshole here, and I'm done trying to teach you basic communication skills.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago

I apologize if my answers have offended anybody, that was clearly not my intention. I just tried to underline my point I have extensively explained in my other answers. To be honest, I find your communication pretty rude. I think you might exagerate here and I don't see where you try to add understanding to this discussion, or "teach me communication skills" how you call it.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is this like Alabama saying they’re not so bad, because there’s always Mississippi?

We look up to you guys to be the Massachusetts

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

They did the same with Germany.

Germans murdered my family in the Nazi genocide. Now Germany is targeting me for protesting Israel’s Holocaust in Gaza.

Coming from Trump, it's more of a "They can do it, so why can't we do it?" fascist whining. But West Germany remained a fascist enclave from the 1950s straight up until the 1980s. And fascists continue to riddle the police, the media, and the financial sectors to this day.

This makes the content of the evaluations irrelevant

It's a pot calling the kettle Nazi. But it isn't wrong.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I expect they're going to do this to every country that doesn't fall in line. The sides for WW3 are being picked

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That is a bold statement coming from an administration who is rounding up people to be put in prisons under terrible conditions

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

oh no, those prisons don't have conditions

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 3 points 12 hours ago

"we towed it outside the environment"

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I mean, that's sort of the joke. Just ICE Spiderman pointing at MET Spiderman.

Starmer's out there doing Liberal Fascism to satisfy a bunch of Zionists who won't be happy until Nigel Farage has his head on a pike. Not unlike how Biden, Hochul, and Adams handled the Columbia student protests.

Trump gets in a few face punches because his liberal opposition are too busy fishing in their pants for AIPAC donations.

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 points 7 hours ago

Less prison, more camp for concentrating abductees.

[–] Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

The problem is that we don't have kettles in the US. And there's no reason for the pot to call the 'microwave you use on your water' black.

[–] a_good_hunter@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Bold coming from pedophile fascists...

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

No self-awareness of any kind

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every time I see Vance, I want to piss on his face

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you expect me to punch him after that?

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

With piss fist for 3x damage

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 points 16 hours ago

New One Punch Man ultimate attack!

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

he might like that.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

"I'm over here committing human rights violations left and right and you assholes haven't lifted a finger to try and stop me!"

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 11 points 16 hours ago

The UK is officially too evil for Trump

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

"Also Prince Andrew was a personal friend of Epstein!"

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Broken clock is right twice a day.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You mean when the hand is pointing backwards towards themselves? Otherwise I'm not following this adage. 😅

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like, you see the news coming out of the UK right? It's not as bad as Trump but it's still awful.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

No the shit I'm hearing from the UK makes Trump seem tolerable

No the us is failing to uphold human rights sure thats true but so is the UK. Hypocrisy doesn't make the statement "the United Kingdom is failing to uphold human rights" untrue.