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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 272 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Hell no. Just use decentralized apps, fediverse etc. It's not about "protecting" children. It's about full control and power. So don't give up.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

It’s about the information vacuum. Now every service will get your ID or photo, giving them both age and a whole sort of other metrics to build a profile on you. And yes, Lemmy.ca doesn’t know that about me.

[–] TheMonk@lemmings.world 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I gotta be honest I thought I’d never be able to quit Reddit. But it was a lot easier when I just did it. If this shit becomes the norm, I’ll back out of a site first time they try that shit and block the site. Maybe I’ll just have to stop using the internet. Wouldn’t that be a net positive on my life. You made me do this, capitalism.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (18 children)

decentralized apps, fediverse

Those apps and / or the fediverse itself would get sued into the ground and shut down one app or server at a time. There's nothing stopping any Governments authorities from going after servers inside their borders and there's nothing stopping them from "harmonizing" identity verification restrictions among other countries. They've already done it once with Intellectual Property law.

This push to de-anonymize the Internet isn't new either. Microsoft started this back in the oughts with their Passport / Digital-ID program. Google and Meta, along with others, long ago launched their own versions and it's why you can sign into so many websites with a Google or Facebook account.

It's generally referred to as IdP and now that the Internet has been fully corporatized, with minor holdouts, you can bet your bippy that the days of anonymous access are ending.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

If only there was a non-commercial, decentralized way of doing the same thing we are already doing. Perhaps make it free too. Hmmm

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[–] belit_deg@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Also apps that don't need servers. Switched to this for staying in touch with family p2p, works surprisingly well https://keet.io/

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 150 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck that. The future fucken sucks.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I'm literally now playing ps2 games on my modbo chip ps2 slim.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 134 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

And as soon as that happens, I'm out. I'd rather just opt out of the modern internet. I already have to deal with my information getting leaked from various different services at least once every couple years it seems. I can change a credit card or a password, I can't change my ID.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 53 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We'll build our own Internet. With black jack and...

[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

We have already done that. It's called Dreddit and not even major governments can stop it.

collapsed inline mediahttps://www.torproject.org/

https://dark.fail/

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[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We already have gemini. A text based internet protocol like gopher.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 22 points 2 days ago (17 children)

I'm literally going around trying out old school forum sites this week.

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We're heading back to the dreams of the 90s with people running websites on non-standard ports and DNS (new rinky dink decentralized DNS?). Take a performance and usability hit for the return of a more decentralized Internet. Probably still more usable than the early internet with all the lessons learned and tools available to modern developers. We can also bring back the term: web master

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There are already far more people in raw numbers on various federated/non-commercial/self-hosted/indie web stuff than there ever were on the early web- it just takes a little effort to find it.

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[–] zer0bitz@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago

If this happens they should check ID at church too seeing as how children are much more likely to be abused or groomed by someone there.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If it comes to Lemmy, I quit. I'll go touch grass all day, I don't mind.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 26 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I will move to freenet, i2p and tor

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[–] oozy7@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Remember guys, they cared about the kids and their online safety as soon as Israel started a genocide in Gaza and they lost control of the narrative. But they didn't care at all for the past 20 years when Epstein and his buddies were running rampant.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is why the Dark-web exists.

  • Tor
  • I2P
  • Yggdrasil
  • LokiNet
  • FreeNet
  • ZeroNet
  • GNUnet (In the distant future)

Did I miss anything ?

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[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's fucking ironic that this article is asking me to register just to read it.

Can was please fucking stop needing accounts to exist online? So fucking dumb

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The real goal is to eliminate anonymity from the internet.

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

It’s about control. They can grant you access or revoke it based on your id.

The powers at be hate that they can’t control the narrative as well as they used to so this is their solution.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

will a headshot from thispersondoesnotexist.com work?

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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (4 children)

No it's not, maybe for some mainstream websites. Saying the "whole internet" is clickbait hyperbole.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

the simulatenous legislaiton from all countries seems very suspicious of a certain foreign adversary backing such motives. this isnt the first things like this happened. just a hunch.

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[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe the whole corporate internet. Unless we're forced into aol style portals by the death of net neutrality i think most of the lemmy user base will be fine. Shout-out to /c/selfhosted for those looking to get ahead of the permission gate.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

They intend to tie a name to every keystroke

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Tor, and mesh networks. Every article brings me closer to going hard just for the lulz.

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[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 24 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I think we need to organise a massive campaign for people to cancel their entire Isp for at least a month, I'm betting all this would get reversed almost overnight.

Anything but that I fear they win and we all end up on the darknet.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hahaha

Good luck doing that.

People can't even delay their non-essential shinies to make a statement against price gouging/raising bullshit.. You think they're gonna willingly sacrifice something like internet? for a month?

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get your coat, we’re leaving.

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[–] ard@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this is backwards. why can't publishers mark pages as child-friendly and then browsers and operating systems can have a child-friendly mode that parents (or whoever the authoritarians are) can use. Laws can target people misusing the child-friendly mode.

[–] Coil@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not about actually protecting children. It's about data.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Google already changed logged out YouTube to a single row of recommendations and a button to login on roku and Android shield when it used to look like the logged in version just a couple weeks ago. Probably the kick I needed to get off, mostly just using it for a couple smaller call-in/debate streamers I can switch to a podcast or other version.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 19 points 2 days ago

i2p lemmy is going to be great!

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What sucks is that once these laws are in place repealing them will probably never happen. There are far too many people who will benefit financially from this to allow that to happen.

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[–] gigachad@piefed.social 17 points 2 days ago

Better start downloading the important documents now

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whever this happens, fuck this shit im out...

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